Tums and Cebil

[Nathanial.Dread]

I have heard that orally taking Cebil seeds with Essential Lemon Oil and Calcium Carbonite greatly reduces the body-load of the seeds, and I was wondering if anyone knew if tums (those pills you take for an upset stomach) would work the same way.

Any thoughts?

 

[jamie]

no.

I have no idea why taking calcium carbonate would help either. I am skeptical of the lemon oil claims also just based on how harsh bufotenine is. I never tried lemon oil but if those claims are true to the extent that it blocks bufotenine nausea that would be awesome.

It is not just nausea or bodyload. There is heavy constriction in the body with the stuff..especially in the legs, and in places like the jaw and stomache for me. It can be extremely unpleasant. I would take a vasodialator first like ginger..it helps a bit but still it's something you have to endure.

 

[obliguhl]

Get as much vasodilation as possible! I once ate ONE seed before bed just to wake up to ancient patterns and a strong pain in my legs...

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

Would cannabis be an adequate vasodilator, do you think?

 

[jamie]

no.

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

Any suggestions, then?
Research I've done has thrown up ginger, cannabis, a bunch of pharmaceuticals that I can't get a hold of, and then things like beets, celery and lettuce, which I'm inclined to think probably won't do enough.

And if you're interested in mixing calcium carbonite with bufotenine, do a quick search for it. I'm not sure if we're allowed to link out to any other entheogen/psychedelic related forums, but I found a couple of people who tried it and said that in conjunction with essential lemon extract it almost completely erased the body load.

 

[jamie]

the calcium bufotenate thing is a myth. It never made any bit of difference. All you need is freebase bufotenine.

Bufotenine admixtures/as admixture - Bufotenine and 5-MeO-DMT - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

See that thread maybe for possible vasodialators. Ginger works to some degree..so does coffee and cacao.

 

[TOXSIN]

When I snort them, I just take half a pepto bismol pill like 20 mins prior and my stomach never even turns once.

 

[jamie]

there is absolutly no reason for peptobismol to stop any nausea with bufotenine. The pKa of bufotenine makes it so that there is constriction etc and it binds to seratonin receptors in the stomache. I cant imagine peptobismol doing anything for that.

 

[jamie]

"And if you're interested in mixing calcium carbonite with bufotenine"

The calcium-bufotenate theory is one that has been taken apart many times and shown why it makes no sense. Adding calcium carbonate to the bufotenine to freebase it does not change anything IME. You can do the same with calcium hydroxide or sodium carbonate.

 

[TOXSIN]

"And if you're interested in mixing calcium carbonite with bufotenine"

The calcium-bufotenate theory is one that has been taken apart many times and shown why it makes no sense. Adding calcium carbonate to the bufotenine to freebase it does not change anything IME. You can do the same with calcium hydroxide or sodium carbonate.

Trust me jaime Pepto works, I dunno why I dunno how, and I wouldn't ever drink pepto liquid prior to tripping but take a half to a whole pepto pill about 20-30 mins before tripping and you will have a nice ride, not saying it takes away form body load, but it gets rid of nausea there may have been for me. Or maybe I just never got nausea wouldn't that be nice, the pepto might be placebo if I was just lucky enough to get no nausea! But try it out whats the worst that could happen you puke pink?

 

[TOXSIN]

I also try to level my head so I don't get a drip as long as possible,I let as much absorb through nose as possible for another 20 mins or so then I tilt head back maybe add some water to get the juices dropping. and Whatever's still stuck I usually just blow out within another 20 mins.