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GuruD

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Hi,

I came very close to what I would consdier breaking through, but only once, when I smoked around 80mg of dmt-infused peppermint leaf which was blended at a ratio of 1:1 dmt to peppermint. It was smoked through a bong.

My question is, if I am seeking a guranteed breakthrough experience, should I just pack 200mg of enhanced leaf into the bong and smoke as much of this as possible, holding each inhalation in for a good fifteen seconds? That would amount to 100mg of pure dmt. If I can't breakthrough on even this, then I guess I just can't for whatever reason.

And yet, at certain times I have taken very light puffs from this blend and had very powerful experiences. And yet at other times it feels like there is a lead weight inside of my chest which is keeping me from experiencing a breakthrough, and demons are mocking me. What's going on here?

My intuition and spiritual angels are telling me that I'm on the right path, even though it doesn't quite feel like it at this point. I smoked a nice small amount of infused leaf this morning but I hardly felt it for whatever reason.

I think that I am going to do what my inner guidance is telling me, which is to pack the bowl completely and then smoke as much as possible, holding each inhalation in deeply for at least 10-15 seconds, within as short of a time frame as I can, from my bong; preferably at nighttime.

The sub-breakthrough experience mentioned at the beginning of this post is what really inspired me to want to pursue this further. I feel like if I had taken one more big inahaltion at the time, then I would have broken through for sure. But I was reluctant to because it felt like death, complete death, and I did not feel ready because I did not know if I would return. I've experienced personality destruction and soul oblivion on salvia divinorum before they were very negative, anti-life experiences. I wouldn't even call them "spiritual" in any way.

Well thanks for reading through this and I would love to hear some feedback. Have a good day.

gurud
 
Hi GuruD

There is usually a significant learning curve when it comes to smoking DMT efficiently. I would advise against throwing in 200mg of enhanced leaf, as there is a chance it could go very wrong.

What is your smoking technique? If smoked/vaped properly, you don't need to pack such large doses to break through.

Have you searched the forum yet on this subject? This thread could be helpful.
 
hi doingkermit, thanks for the response.

I put together a 1:1 blend of dmt to peppermint leaves, and it is potent. But I'm having very mixed reactions to it for some strange reason. I ususally just ignite it lightly, enough for the whole bowl to cherry, and then inhale, holding it in for maybe ten seconds. But lately I've been reluctant to take big inahalations and hold them in, because I'm scared that I might actually breakthrough if I do so. And the sub-breakthrough experiences lately have been overly negative, and I recoil in fear at demons and evil-spirited entities mocking me. I can see their faces and sense their vibrations while sober, and thinking about it makes me not want to repeat the experience (of smoking dmt). I was thinking that if I packed 120mg of enhanced leaf into the bong and smoked it all in two large puffs, holding each hit in for a good fifteen seconds, then I would surely experience a breakthrough and complete hyperspace. But I'm very reluctant to try this. Also thanks for the link to that page, I remember reading through that once before but it was a good reminder. I think that my fear is the only thing preventing me from breaking through fully and completely.
 
This post is almost identical to this one. Having a hard time letting go - First steps in Hyperspace - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

You seem to have left people hanging who had asked you to respond to their comments, and started another thread stating almost the exact same things.

Is your idea to keep asking the same question until you get the answer you want to hear, all the while ignoring all the comments that you don't want to hear?
Also, there are many threads on how to get past the fear, and pre-flight anxiety, proper smoking technique, etc.
The posters who are advising against smoking right now, such as myself, are not trying to discourage you for any other reason than the fact that you could have an overwhelmingly negative journey, especially at the high doses you are talking about. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, it is terrible, and can cause real, serious issues.
These demons and evil-spirited entities that are mocking you, does not make for a proper mindset for taking powerful psychedelics.

If you are going to go through with it anyway, search for all the threads about pre-flight anxiety, how to breakthrough, smoking technique, etc. and you will accomplish it if that's what you feel you need to do.

I will ask again, though, why is there such an urgency to breakthrough right now?
It is not a magic cure-all, and seems like it could do more harm than good for you right now.
I would put it on hold until everything feels right, it will still be there, waiting for when you are ready.

I wish you the best.
 
Hello GuruD,

I want to preface this by saying I am no guru in the realms of DMT. The following is MY opinion of YOUR scenario.

I honestly think your inability to break through is less about what's in your bowl and more about what's in your head. Your relationship with DMT seems a little off. It should not be one of haste, but a long exploration of one's self. I am not sure why you are in such a rush to break through, just because it's a breakthrough, doesn't mean it will be positive... Although, maybe that's what you need... In any sense, I agree with AcidShard, take some time out, meditate, figure out what it is in your life that you are having troubles with or complete a task you are subconsciously prioritizing. When you are in the correct mindset, you will break through.

Good luck in the future regardless of what advice you choose to take!
 
Hi GuruD,

I made the mistake to underestimate the consequences of too much DMT. I increase from 30 to over 60 mg and only the experience becomes more impressive. Then I became slaphappy/jaunty. The last time it must be over 200mg and it was really,really unpleasant.

From my experiences the last years, it was my own attitude that I had to change. Also for me I had to learn to "let go".
The second message i got from DMT..."it is not a recreational drug", I have to study the results.
But it is worth the trouble...more then worth.
:)

This is just my opinion, maybe its wrong.

Thx
 
My opinion is to go for it guns blazing dude. Follow your gut and do a big one.

Also, from my experience of trying with a lung (similar to gravity bong) the longer the smoke is held, the weaker it gets.
Do it through a small pipe, biggest inhilations possible and hold for just long enough but not stupid long.

For me, like this, sometimes it can be worrying in the first part of the trip due to loss of knowledge of where I was but as realisation circled into awareness it becomes even more astounding when the contrasting feeling of understanding and acceptance washes over you.

Oh, and dont take your demons too seriously.

My 1:1 changa dose changed from 250mg from a lung to 150mg through a pipe and was stronger. I started with high doses and wouldn't want anything else now.

EDIT: Reading a bit more carefully, in your situation maybe you are more wise to listen to what AcidShard has to say. Maybe sotp putting pressure on yourself to achieve something.
Also, I would like to meet your demons, they seem interesting. I don't seem to have such direct contact with entities even on the high doses I have taken, which I am in one way jelous of others for but on the other hand maybe I have something different to learn from this experience.
I love doing these high doses because the comeback into reality is so profound, however even on a low dose I have only had an entity with maybe 90% and 10% sinister feelings.
If in your case it is a lot more sinister then maybe keep to the doses you are having until you have more understanding of these demons.

Btw, my changa is 50% spice and 50% mix of harmala extract, caapi vine, pau d'arco, blue lotus flower - which are basicaly seratonin inhibitors. My more experienced friend tells me this is the best mix he has ever tried so I wouold recommend it to you. Maybe it will alter your trip.
 
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