unified questions

[Felnik]

I've been thinking that perhaps some of us regular travelers to hyperspace should be working on some unified questions to pose.

Perhaps a small list of significant questions to ask when the chance arises.
When that mantis is in your face have a few prepared questions to fire at it.
or when those things are squriming around your head checking you out have some questions for them.



I've become more and more interested in the possibility of retrieving some
direct and potentially useful information from the hyperspacial realms. I know there are different schools of thought on nexus regarding the nature of this " other" place. The more i travel the more it seems to lean toward a hyperspacial energy grid of some kind. It seems access to this is somehow important to us as humans. why is it important? is it even important at all?

you may disregard this as well, just a concept.

The idea is not to go in with the intention to ask questions .Just have a few previously contemplated focussed questions ready just in case the opportunity arrises.

I see it as basically getting as many of us on the same page with some kind of unified directive if you will.

 

[cellux]

I haven't partaken in the DMT experience yet, but if it is similar to acid in this respect, then preparing such questions seems worthless. I suspect that the faculty with which one could ask such questions would be entirely gone by the time the mantoid wisdom guides arrived.

(the only questions that can be asked - and which are worth asking - are those that are written in our hearts. and we have no control over those anyway.)

 

[Eden]

DMT is a strange hallucinogen in the sense that it does not have much impact on the lucidity of the mind. Conciousness does not change drastically, it is the spacial existence of the conciousness that does. At least that is how I see it.

I think this is a good idea in the sense that it shows a willingless to learn and this attitude can have an enormous benefit on the trip. But it is possible that our questions are so very elementary that the answers, if there are any, are of little consequence with the actual reality of hyperspace.

My usual conversation is a simple, "Show me that which I cannot comprehend."

 

[OpeningPandorasBox]

Since you have not tried spice you wouldnt realize that sometimes spice can leave your sense of self intact even while exploring hyperspace. While I think it would be unlikely that you would have the forethought to recall a previously assembled list of questions while being blasted with hyperspace fractals, I dont see it as being impossible. Especially if you were to rehearse the questions from time to time so that they are in your instant recall memory.

 

[Felnik]

yes this is why i mentioned regular visitors to hyperspace .Your mind is intact and the ability to comprehend is not impaired at least most of the time. It is a varied labyrinth of an experience that sometimes goes crazy. The more often you go the more you begin to notice patterns and the less distracted you are by the clowns and colors. There is a certain essence of an experience that i am speaking of. A moment in it that is the chance to ask a question or two.

I would have imagined by now someone wold have gotten a specific answer. Not a vague nebulous answer but a specific one.

there are many possibilities .

examples:

we are not ready for the truth.

its all a minifestation of our minds and there are no answers

the answers are way beyond our present ability to comprehend

the list goes on


I feel we have nothing to loose by creating a unified directive for when an opportunity arrises.

a small list of really smart focussed questions.
perhaps its an exercise in futility I say lets try it

 

[Eden]

There is no reason not to, really.
It would be interesting to see if common answers are given.

However, there is always the issue that whatever we read from others' experiences will then influence our own.

 

[Felnik]

working name :

Unified Hyperspace Directive

 

[Bill Cipher]

1. Why did the chicken cross the road?
2. How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
3. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it really make a sound?
4. Who is buried in Grant's tomb?
5. What is black and white and black and white and black and white all over?
6. How many pecks of pickled peppers did Peter Piper pick?
7. Where can a one legged waitress find work?
8. What's that thing on Aaron Neville's face?
9. Where's the beef?
10. Who killed J.R.?

 

[gibran2]

I think the answers are there and they are readily available – not “hidden” from us – but we, being mere mortal human beings, don’t have the cognitive capacity to understand them.

Try this little experiment: The next time a fly flies into your room, and repeatedly bashes itself into your window in a vain effort to get outside, give the fly the answers it seeks. Explain to the fly the transparent nature of glass. Explain what glass is, what transparency is. Use whatever visual aids you need to get your ideas across. Maybe a Powerpoint presentation outlining the apparent paradoxical nature of glass – solid, yet transparent. Show the fly a diagram mapping the path to freedom.

Provide the fly with answers to every conceivable question it might have. (I imagine the fly’s questions would center on escape.) In spite of your best efforts, guess what --- the fly will keep on bashing itself into your window, oblivious to the help you’re trying to provide.

 

[TrustLoveMan]

Whenever I try to see something it never works. If I go in thinking something then I start to loop it. I try to go in with a completely empty mind, that usually gives me the best trip.

 

[Eden]

Provide the fly with answers to every conceivable question it might have.

If a fly started communicating with me and asking intelligible questions, I would most likely provide it with answers.
Thats just me though.

If you don't believe humans to be capable of comprehending even a fraction of hyperspace, may I ask why you visit it?

 

[gibran2]

If a fly started communicating with me and asking intelligible questions, I would most likely provide it with answers.
Thats just me though.

If you don't believe humans to be capable of comprehending even a fraction of hyperspace, may I ask why you visit it?

Well, the fly IS communicating with you in an intelligible way. You know it wants to get past that “invisible” barrier, don’t you? The fly communicates via it’s actions. So the question is, how would you go about providing answers to the fly that it can understand?

And what makes you think I don’t believe humans to be capable of comprehending even a fraction of hyperspace? I said that I think we don’t have the cognitive capacity to understand many of the answers given. Hyperspace is much more than answers to questions.

Anyhow, I don’t use DMT to get answers. I use it to participate in the mystery.

 

[Eden]

Anyhow, I don’t use DMT to get answers. I use it to participate in the mystery.

Fair enough, I can definitely relate to this.

I also agree that hyperspace is more than answers, but I do think that asking questions and striving for comprehension is paramount in discovering and learning to truly appreciate the jigsaw puzzle that is our experience of the spirit molecule. This is the nature of "exploring" in my understanding of the activity.

I simply think our ventures into hyperspace amount to more than a fly colliding into a window repeatedly. Do I think this because I am seeing this only from my own perspective? Maybe so. But "escape" is not on my mind when I voyage. I want to interact with them, and as far as I am capable, I do. Flies do not necessarily want to interact with us, nor do they show any inclination to do anything but escape.

 

[shoe]

I haven't partaken in the DMT experience yet, but if it is similar to acid in this respect, then preparing such questions seems worthless. I suspect that the faculty with which one could ask such questions would be entirely gone by the time the mantoid wisdom guides arrived.

(the only questions that can be asked - and which are worth asking - are those that are written in our hearts. and we have no control over those anyway.)

Whenever I ask any questions of the spice (and if your question is serious, it will definately be answered.) I just ask as part of my pre-flight ritual, while giving thanks and so-on.

I recall a beautiful experience when I asked about how to make the world a better place; It was shown to me from multiple different angles at once, people linked together to form tribes, tribes developed tools, tools begat teachings, teachings lead to beleif systems and all that magical energy poured upwards into a great tangible thing that we call 'the world'. All to the soundtrack of deep forest, which synchronised absoloutely perfectly, with their little sound effects each having a specific meaning. It was all very, very meaningful. Let me tell you that was an incredible trip. So easy, and so smooth on the landing yet so profound and absoloutely off the charts in terms of wonder and insight.

Just be sincere in your questions.

I am against asking hyperspacial entities questions merely to prove their existance, in my opinion its a frivilous activity. You should ask questions about how to better yourself, how to make the world a better place, how to make others happy, how to bring people together. How we can ensure the future of mankind. These are questions. not "hello, are there any elves out there?" "how many moons does saturn have so I can go back and check on the internet and determine if there is a source of information outside myself at work here."

 

[joebono]

I think the answers are there and they are readily available – not “hidden” from us – but we, being mere mortal human beings, don’t have the cognitive capacity to understand them.

Try this little experiment: The next time a fly flies into your room, and repeatedly bashes itself into your window in a vain effort to get outside, give the fly the answers it seeks. Explain to the fly the transparent nature of glass. Explain what glass is, what transparency is. Use whatever visual aids you need to get your ideas across. Maybe a Powerpoint presentation outlining the apparent paradoxical nature of glass – solid, yet transparent. Show the fly a diagram mapping the path to freedom.

Provide the fly with answers to every conceivable question it might have. (I imagine the fly’s questions would center on escape.) In spite of your best efforts, guess what --- the fly will keep on bashing itself into your window, oblivious to the help you’re trying to provide.

Great analogy, Girbran2. If what goes on in hyperspace has a reality greater than, say a daydream, then your thought experiment would be my assessment of its impact on us.

 

[cellux]

I also agree that hyperspace is more than answers, but I do think that asking questions and striving for comprehension is paramount in discovering and learning to truly appreciate the jigsaw puzzle that is our experience of the spirit molecule. This is the nature of "exploring" in my understanding of the activity.

"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."
(Pablo Picasso)