Thank you Changa_boi for explaining about Buddhism etc.. A lot of what you said resonates, extremely especially the Graphic-User-Interface thingy, see later.
It is nice to see many different approaches funnel down to the same basic principles, and those principles are merely... simple.
Training the mind/emotion activity looks like a hard thing to do but I've come to consider mind/emotions as just functional surviving facilities, like muscles. Suppose you let your muscle activities erratically move uncontrolled anyway they can, you would hit yourself by spasms and eventually injure yourself. It needs harmony of muscle management to become a nice moving whole. As do mind/emotions, there is a skill to yield. Or not, and status quo, I think this is not necessarily wrong, just another one of possibilities to go about. I enjoy a time of status quo now and then
Nevertheless surviving is also served by scouting new ways, discovering potentials not yet covered, and herein lies a risk 'curiosity killed the cat'. Applicable to both muscles and mind, like exploring the hardware body and it's 'software'. I think the latter is to be felt as a being-drawn to psychedelics for example, or what zen can offer, etc.. Let's be a curious but careful cat
Allow me to detail things I wrote before:
The way I tamed my tendency of having horrific dreams was addressed like anyone would address any human behavioral pattern, like stammer, or having a repeating twitch, it's all like a looping situation. Again I don't see much difference between a body hardware loop or a mental software loop, all being surviving potentials that got into a non serving looping pattern. To break the chain was very much seeing what is happening, and shedding light on the issue at hand (mostly: I am doing this) is most of the solution already. I felt not a victim of having 'an issue' but being the factory of this issue.
Once I got woke up in full adrenaline status I told myself: "now do not loose this state, keep at it, this is interesting, examine it!!" To my surprise I could hold on to the freaking status for a period, while the 'dream-story that was tagged to it' was already far gone.
I discovered that it was not the scary dream story that induced the adrenalistic status, but the other way around! My body executed an adrenal flush, and hence it was my Graphic User Interface that found an illustrative way to explain the feeling that I had. The CGI did just the same as it does in day time, to produce an image (story) that is the best bet co-axing with what-is-felt.
I found myself to be kind of addicted to adrenal release, for whatever reason, and an ideal circumstance was at night at sleep, when body sensory input is low as is my mental resistance.
I flushed myself with adrenaline on a looping pattern, and each time the CGI (dream) kicked in, producing another dream story to explain what I was feeling, being horrific story lines imagined.
In other words: being analytical about the dream contents was a wrong (say unsuccessful) way to solve my issue, because the dream was not the source at all, but just and only a way of the CGI to explain the felt experience.
Seeing/knowing-about this mechanics, repeating over and over (yes braking a pattern chain needs some efforts, as is with countering stammer or twitches) disclosed the mystery, shed light on it, expose it, is all it needs, no more, and this sun-light melts the ice slowly but steadily.
At night, I was like spasm muscles hitting myself, but not with muscles, yet with hormonal powers or the likes. Discovering these things was what I referred as 'wholesome framework' practices, addressing behavioral patterns.
What would have happened if I searched only for solace in efforts to protect myself against bad dreams? It would have been efforts in vain, betting on a wrong horse. It would have been like makeup on a sick skin, wiping dirt under the carpet.
It may now become more clear why I said that protection measures, in a more general way, can be cloaked practicing of fear, being counter effective in cases. Feeding fear eventually.
I've been hypothesizing to myself that the dmt experience is actually a bodily felt experience first and foremost, and the molecular over subsidized CGI making a hell of a visual scene, trying to match the enormous felt experience. My intuition very much steers this way.
Each time I see someone posting: "Hey I could literally FEEL the entity doing stuff to my body" then I can't resist thinking: maybe the bodily experience came first, and your super duper activated CGI drawed an entity to explain that feeling.
I can feel twitches left or right during the day, those don't get explained as entity actions during the day, but under the blanket of deems it can. Maybe I don't do entities fair justice enough, but then this is result of me haven't much encounters as such, and I know I'm not alone.
I admit when deep in, all this is theory (even when right) and of little use. Then the singing and voices are of use, they are tricks of the trade to re-arrange the prevailing winds. Shamans sing a lot, someone quite versed told me once: the icaro's are most important, more than the molecules itself, they truly make up for the reigning vibe, sober or deep in.
But doing the wholesome framework in advance (meditation etc), will preset at least to degree what is encountered in-there no doubt, sometimes this work is in progress and thus we run into the electric fence, thinking oh-dear here it is, somewhat too much :lol:
