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Vaping freebase harmalas

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BananaForeskin

BananaForeskin

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I feel like there are lot of vaguer references to smoking/vaping freebase harmalas by themselves, but little hard info on the topic.
Does anyone have any dosages they prefer? Plants to accompany? Experiences? Techniques?

Especially with Gibran's caapi extraction tek, I think this might become more common. I tried it last night, sprinkling about 50-60mg of caapi alkaloids onto bud in my GVG. My friend and I shared it. Everyone else there smoked the same amount of pot, but out of a bong sans caapi. I was surprised by how much the experience had the feeling of a caapi trip about it. There were the same sort of visions, and even some wobbliness and shaking. It turned pot into a full-blown psychedelic lay-on-the-futon-surfing-through-foreign-lands sort of experience, even for my buddy who smokes WAAAY more weed than I do. It was quite interesting, and I really want to vape the harmalas by themselves.
 
I used caapi extract last night before I drank very potent green dragon. The dragon just over rides anything else you take with it.
 
Your sister just vaped 25mg of freebase harmlas extracted from rue. What a rush! It was kinda intense for about 1/2 hour (heavy stone, ringing ears etc.) and then it slowly tailed off. Sister had to stop work until things simmered down, lol.

It was a dry run to see what vaped harmla is like alone before vaping some before a dmt launch. Sister now thinks 25mgs was more than would be needed for a dmt prelaunch.

one note: there was a lot of charred residue in the bulb, suggesting that harmlas decomposition temperature is lower than its melting point or boiling point. Nice buzz regardless.
 
I tend to smoke my harmalas with cannabis, although occasionally I'll smoke them by themselves. When smoking out of a bong/bowl with weed, I'll just sprinkle the top of the bowl as though the haramalas were kief and hit it accordingly. My preferred method though is to roll a joint, but after laying the herb down on the paper and before rolling it up, I place a thick line of harmalas in the middle of the herb and then roll it, so it has a "harmala core" around which the weed is rolled. I find this helps to burn evenly (this was a method I developed for rolling dmt-joints and I find it works great for harmalas too) and makes for a very unique and enjoyable experience.
 
SnozzleBerry said:
I tend to smoke my harmalas with cannabis, although occasionally I'll smoke them by themselves. When smoking out of a bong/bowl with weed, I'll just sprinkle the top of the bowl as though the haramalas were kief and hit it accordingly. My preferred method though is to roll a joint, but after laying the herb down on the paper and before rolling it up, I place a thick line of harmalas in the middle of the herb and then roll it, so it has a "harmala core" around which the weed is rolled. I find this helps to burn evenly (this was a method I developed for rolling dmt-joints and I find it works great for harmalas too) and makes for a very unique and enjoyable experience.
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Do you know approx how much harmalas are used in the joint. And what does the DMT-joint consist of and how much.

Thanks:wink:
 
I used to drop a pinch into a test tube 150mm test tube and gently boil them via candle. They do leave a yucky residue but it is clean-able. The feeling is pretty light-headed and 'rushy' but not edgey. I've found it to help with headaches...
 
BananaForeskin said:
I feel like there are lot of vaguer references to smoking/vaping freebase harmalas by themselves, but little hard info on the topic.
Does anyone have any dosages they prefer? Plants to accompany? Experiences? Techniques?

Especially with Gibran's caapi extraction tek, I think this might become more common. I tried it last night, sprinkling about 50-60mg of caapi alkaloids onto bud in my GVG. My friend and I shared it. Everyone else there smoked the same amount of pot, but out of a bong sans caapi. I was surprised by how much the experience had the feeling of a caapi trip about it. There were the same sort of visions, and even some wobbliness and shaking. It turned pot into a full-blown psychedelic lay-on-the-futon-surfing-through-foreign-lands sort of experience, even for my buddy who smokes WAAAY more weed than I do. It was quite interesting, and I really want to vape the harmalas by themselves.
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Is this experiance possible with pot and cappi alkaloids?
 
I have been smoking Vine Alkaloids daily for years now.

Ourinhos being the nicest but the yields weren't great and I found it to be quite weak when made into changa.

Yellow vine has great yields,nice effects and works really well in Changa. The Changa being Alks, DMT, enhanced onto the vine.

Rizla , Mullein , Vine Alks = Love it.

I stopped weighing the Alks because its time consuming . I smoke one or two joints per day.
 
I prefer sublingual caapi. Between 15-30mg is plenty. Unfortunately, after many successful extractions I have lost the ability to extract caapi alkaloids. I've tried several times with different vine from different vendors. No dice.
I wonder if it has something to do with that trip where some entities told me to "DRINK THE BREW" "You may no longer extract until you do." :) Psychosomatic, subconscious self sabotage or hyperspace interference. Who knows?
 
Mister_Niles said:
I prefer sublingual caapi. Between 15-30mg is plenty. Unfortunately, after many successful extractions I have lost the ability to extract caapi alkaloids. I've tried several times with different vine from different vendors. No dice.
I wonder if it has something to do with that trip where some entities told me to "DRINK THE BREW" "You may no longer extract until you do." :) Psychosomatic, subconscious self sabotage or hyperspace interference. Who knows?
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So when you gonna drink the brew? 😉
 
Dr_Sister said:
one note: there was a lot of charred residue in the bulb, suggesting that harmlas decomposition temperature is lower than its melting point or boiling point. Nice buzz regardless.
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Same here.

Also am I the only one finding the taste of vaping Harmalas really really bad? Is there anything one could do to this to alter the taste?

Also what amount would one usually have to vape, when one wants to vape some other trypts afterwards? (e.g. DMT)

And how long does it work vaped?

Edit:
Just read, that some do it sublingual (around 30mg). Interesting, might try that one...
 
Aum_Shanti said:
Dr_Sister said:
one note: there was a lot of charred residue in the bulb, suggesting that harmlas decomposition temperature is lower than its melting point or boiling point. Nice buzz regardless.
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Same here.

Also am I the only one finding the taste of vaping Harmalas really really bad? Is there anything one could do to this to alter the taste?

Also what amount would one usually have to vape, when one wants to vape some other trypts afterwards? (e.g. DMT)

And how long does it work vaped?

Edit:
Just read, that some do it sublingual (around 30mg). Interesting, might try that one...
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Did you try sublingually already? would like to hear what you think is more horrible:lol:
Really sl tastes like a sack of shit but I'm onto vaping since quite some time and wonder if vaping Harmalas is better than sl. I assume it's disgusting and bad for ones lung...but is it worth trying?
 
In my view, sublingual freebase harmala alkaloids don't taste all that bad - but I may be an outlier on the bitterness tolerance scale. Even so, it's nowhere near as bad as unroasted rue tea or a slimy, salty cactus brew.

The point with sublingual dosing is that the stuff stays under the tongue to as great an extent as possible. An upshot of this is that you should taste it less, especially considering the dose is significantly smaller than an oral one.
 
downwardsfromzero said:
In my view, sublingual freebase harmala alkaloids don't taste all that bad - but I may be an outlier on the bitterness tolerance scale. Even so, it's nowhere near as bad as unroasted rue tea or a slimy, salty cactus brew.

The point with sublingual dosing is that the stuff stays under the tongue to as great an extent as possible. An upshot of this is that you should taste it less, especially considering the dose is significantly smaller than an oral one.
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Ok, I did not compare it with cactus brew, your right, or chewing 200 raw Turbina Corymbosa seeds :D ...but its almost as bad. It makes my mouth numb.

I tried yesterday to vape Harmalas and figured out that they do not dissolve in PG how did the others do it...just shake it around?
 
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