Syrian rue brew dosage when vaping spice?

[windyshaman]

Just poking into the community's wisdom - what's the Syrian rue brew's dosage when prepping for the vaped spice ceremony?

I've started with 3-3.5g - found it rather intense, with some difficult "what if stay this way" instances. Seriously - was really thinking about how will I be explaining this to the EMT people....
Came down to 2g - haven't felt much difference.
Came down to 1.5g - found it marginally softer
Came down to 1g - haven't felt much difference from 1.5g, can still surf a couple of dry herbs vaporizers with 90-100mg of spice in each for 1-1.5h

1h in or 4h in after consuming the brew - it is definitely more intense in the initial 1-2hrs, but still quite strong even way into 4-5hrs.... let's just say, I'm definitely getting less of the time back and forward shiftings 4-5hrs in. Anyone is experiencing these b.t.w.?

Not certain I want to experience freebase by itself anymore...

Very certain about both Syrian brew and changa - affecting my sleep (as in "please poke my eyes out - can't fall asleep for sh@t") a few days after the ceremony, so I'm cautious about the dosages. And this is arguably the main reason why i'm keeping my syrian rue intake in tune with my DMT sessions.

 

[Panpsychic]

Just poking into the community's wisdom - what's the Syrian rue brew's dosage when prepping for the vaped spice ceremony?

I've started with 3-3.5g - found it rather intense, with some difficult "what if stay this way" instances. Seriously - was really thinking about how will I be explaining this to the EMT people....
Came down to 2g - haven't felt much difference.
Came down to 1.5g - found it marginally softer
Came down to 1g - haven't felt much difference from 1.5g, can still surf a couple of dry herbs vaporizers with 90-100mg of spice in each for 1-1.5h

1h in or 4h in after consuming the brew - it is definitely more intense in the initial 1-2hrs, but still quite strong even way into 4-5hrs.... let's just say, I'm definitely getting less of the time back and forward shiftings 4-5hrs in. Anyone is experiencing these b.t.w.?

This sounds about right. You can just keep titrating down either the Rue dosage or the DMT until you find the right balance. I would say as well as reducing the Rue, try the other way of keeping a higher Rue dose but reducing the DMT and see how that is.

Not certain I want to experience freebase by itself anymore...

You likely won't go back and why would you? Intensification, depth and duration is significantly increased and less DMT is required as well. As has been said, these two are made for each other. Doing DMT without Harmalas, is the strange new invention of recent years pioneered by McKenna.

And this is arguably the main reason why i'm keeping my syrian rue intake in tune with my DMT sessions.

I also primarily take Rue tea in combination with the DMT. Another nice thing doing it this way is it also makes the whole process into more of a ritual and more deliberate. There can be a place for spontaneity sometimes, but the drinking of the brew, the waiting for an hour and meditating or listening to music or however you use as it as the Rue comes up, is part of it culminating in the DMT hit.

 

[TransistorBass]

I've extracted my Rue seeds into Harmalas, you only need 40-60mg sublingual about 30-60mins before Vaped DMT and a lovely extended experience. The experience with harmalas always feels more full and therapeutic than DMT alone.
I personally found 100mg Harmalas before Vaped DMT a little too much as it made me feel pretty woozy when trying to move, not a problem if you don't plan to move!