vaping rue seed..[ under SP]..

[starway7]

my ...plenty.. chamber reducer just came in.notice the bowl size difference...below..

should... be able to direct most of the heat through a smaller amount of material...and make your material last longer.. .


[the large chamber] might be ok for a group of people vaping pot..


but.. spice or changa..or rue seed.. should not need a large chamber...in my opinion..

 

[starway7]

will be testing reduced chamber soon!

expect it to work well!:thumb_up:

 

[starway7]

I made a first test using the reduced chamber in the.. [plenty vaporizer].. and was impressed because after the vaporizer reached temperature and clicked off...i took a couple gental pulls through the bubbler and instantly! it produced a visible spice vapor :thumb_up: ...

in this test... [i only used 5 or 6 drops of spice tincture] equaling only 10 to 12 mgs of spice.

i could also taste vapor from the 12 rue seed i placed under the small wad of stainless wet pad ..

I noticed a super smooth light clean vapor from this method...

even on this low dose the experiance was very noticable and relaxing!

using the reduced chamber improved performance a lot!:thumb_up:

MUCH.. MUCH!! better!.. than 4 or 5 pulls i used to have to take.. to get the vapor flowing when I was using the large standard chamber...

once the .. set temp .on the plenty vape .. clicked off.. it produced visible spice vapor almost as fast an an E MESH...only the vapor apeared a little thinner lighter ...and cleaner tasting..but very effective! all the same...

well this is from a convection vape...E mesh is a conduction vape...

So reducing the chamber size concintrated the heat better ..and produced visable spice vapor much faster.:thumb_up: only this time the spice vapor was blended with almost invisable rue vapor..

will send photos of reducer chamber.. and small wet pad ...and the 12 vaped rue seed placed under the wet pad...

below..[there is a photo of vaped and un vaped rue seed] may need to zoom photo to see the difference/

[using only 12 rue seeds]..[under the stainless wet pad]... actually softened and smoothed out the spice experiance ! the plenty vape will not burn any material in chamber!

not shure yet ... but it seems that vaping the rue seed first...then 10 minutes later..vaping spice on top of it.. seemed to give me awesome visual effects..

Blending the two together gave good effects..

but the visual effects seemed more dramatic!.. vaping the seed first..[and feeling rues effect] ...then the spice shortly after.. ... it all trial and efect ..

also in this test.. i only used 5 or 6 drops of spice tincture...[a mere 10 or 12 mgs?]. was just a walk around the block..
.im shure a 20 or 30 mg pile of crystal spice...used in the plenty with reduced chamber..would produce a buisness trip for shure!!:thumb_up:

[check out]....[[plenty vaporizer improving]] ...for use with spice or changa..
.[ in ...[[vapeing/smoking] .... thread

 

[starway7]

After first vapeing only 15 rue seeds [no spice]..in the ...plenty vape ..now using reduced chamber..

Then 10 minutes later... i vaped..only 3 drops of spice tincture....[6 to 9 mgs?]...
from a pre loaded EMesh... the smallest amount spice of ive tryed so far!


I did NOT expect much at all from this small combo!...

The 6 to 9 mgs of spice..hit me like 40mgs of spice! I felt myself hurling forward into hyperspace and was really surprised at the intensity!

At first....it felt like i was going to break through ...

It was getting very visual fast... .but because of the low dose of spice.. visuals only got so far this time...

The whole thing lasted about 20 minutes [Im shure vaping the ..[rue seed first]..
[even only 15 seeds]... 10 minutes before the spice] had a direct effect ...

because 3 drops of spice tincture..[by itself]..would never hit me like that!!

I mean..6 to 9 mgs of spice cant be that strong...?

Strangley .. It seems I would have been a smoother experiance had i used more rue and more spice..

To ..anyone out there with a ..plenty vape..if you try this method ..please..feel free.. to report your experiance!

 

[starway7]

Had a good experiance last night first time using ..[caapi leafe changa].. in the ..[plentys]. reduced chamber..i used way less in the reduced bowl..

As soon as the temp control clicked off.... i took a hit ..and the ..convection vapor.. came on much faster...[almost tasteles]
[than using the large chamber] [bowl]... [it seemed that most!... if not all..... of the vapor came on the first hit]...and still super clean and smooth .. a really nice experiance...

also it seems..every time i have a session with spice...that night i have really amazing dreams...with strong dream recall..


using no rue seed this time...this molecule dosage was only 5 or 6 drops of tincture..equaling 10 or 12 mgs of spice...droppered on to some caapi leaf..

I have not yet tryed a more serious dose... in this convection vape..[with the impressive results so far with low dose]....im shure a solid 20 or 30 mg pile of crystal product..would be a roller coaster ride i wouldent forget..!

 

[1Starway7]

Hi Murklan...If you were at 200 C ...it should have been hot enough...the flame vape may have heated it too fast and destroyed some of the actives.../?

you probibly got some rue alcaloids but also burnt some of it...

I know my .. plenty vape ... works with the seeds but i usually set it at max no 7 setting.. 202 C ...

My vaporizer is a ..true electric desk top..convection vape.. and it gently removes the rue seed coating from the seed..it sort of sweats it off...
[it takes 2 or 3 minutes gently removing the seed coating ]

there are photos in my posts above showing rue seed that is bare of its coating...and another very clere picture of rue seed that has not been vaped...
[go to that post and zoom the picture...the lighter colored vaped seed is [puffed up and gently stripped of its coating!] [look carefully at the seed photos above in post 10...]..

I have to wait about 2 minutes more or less for the temperature light to click off to draw the vapor that is nearly invisable but it can be tasted ...and felt...

if your vaporizer heats much faster than .[[two or three minutes].. and is a conduction vaporizer..that may explain why it didnt work the same..

[Conduction vaporizers].. have trouble maintaining even heating..[thats why many Direct E Meshs have so much vape temp problems ] the temp on conduction vapes are often unstable].
.and it may heat the seed too fast actually destroying some of its actives...

my convection vape works great for rue seed..[changa.[straight dmt]or dry herbs]...but it takes a 2 or 3 minute wait for the desired temperature to click off the light...

[in ..[potnobles].. post above]..he tryed vaping rue seed with his..[ plenty vaporizer] and had success..

My vaporizer is also a ... storz and bickel [plenty ] desktop vaporizer same as [potnoble ] has..

if your vape is a .[conduction vape]...that may be why it didnt work the same....

convection vaporization.. will remove it all...and burn nothing!

re reading this old post of mine....using small dropper i added just enough molecule tincture to cover seeds in tube.... Then i let the rue seeds soak overnight in DMT tincture in test tube ... using no cap on tube.... the alcohol can slowly evaporate leaving the molecule embedded on seeds........[this method evenly coat the rue seeds with a dmt freebase jacket]!..... after so many hours the grain alcohol evaporates away from the seed...
im curious what effect vaping two seeds...or 6 seeds or more would have...

 

[1Starway7]

re reading this old post of mine.... i have my rue seeds soaked in DMT tincture in test tubes below......[coating the rue seeds in dmt freebase......just waiting till the grain alcohol evaporates...curious what effect vaping two seeds...or 6 seeds or more would have...

As the grain alcohol evaporates in the small test tube it appears to leave all the seeds somewhat evenly coated with the molecule..
the tight ...small glass tube... helps to keep almost all of the liquid freebase tincture ... where you want it... [around the seeds] . as the alcohol evaporates.... giving them a coat of molecule....instead of loosing some of the tincture flowing away from the seeds.... if put on a flat dish to dry]..... .

using this method ... one could experiment with very low doses of dmt.....[1..2..3 seeds [or more].. at a time!..... untill the perfect dosage is found for themselves]..... with two combined you get the benifit of the rue....

if vaping the seeds ... i guess the molecule would vaporize first...but the rue effects should come quickly after the molecule vaporized..[or posibly same time?...if using the correct temperature..

This method could be a way...for first timers... to test the waters first.. by carefully vaping ....so many seeds at a time......untill they find the right dose for themselves......small rue seeds can only carry a small dose of the molecule...
.instead of flooding their lungs with a ....reckless giant cloud of molecule vapor.... and getting the shot out of a cannon effect... .[with bp spiking ]......
.....with rues smoothing effect.... their climb should be more gentle and forgiving!

 

[1Starway7]

As the grain alcohol evaporates in the small test tube it appears to leave all the seeds somewhat evenly coated with the molecule..
the tight ...small glass tube... helps to keep almost all of the liquid freebase tincture ... where you want it... [around the seeds] . as the alcohol evaporates.... giving them a coat of molecule....instead of loosing some of the tincture flowing away from the seeds.... if put on a flat dish to dry]..... .

using this method ... one could experiment with very low doses of dmt.....[1..2..3 seeds [or more].. at a time!..... untill the perfect dosage is found for themselves]..... with two combined you get the benifit of the rue....

if vaping the seeds ... i guess the molecule would vaporize first...but the rue effects should come quickly after the molecule vaporized..[or posibly same time?...if using the correct temperature..

This method could be a way...for first timers... to test the waters first.. by carefully vaping ....so many seeds at a time......untill they find the right dose for themselves......small rue seeds can only carry a small dose of the molecule...
.instead of flooding their lungs with a ....reckless giant cloud of molecule vapor.... and getting the shot out of a cannon effect....with the rues effect..[with bp spiking ].. their climb will be more gentle and forgivving!

After one night of drying ..closeup of.... molecule coated rue seed!... ...Zoom photos to get a closer look at the molecule jacket..! cleanly vaped seeds in last two 1586/1587 photos..using plenty vape... too much heat ...can burn or ...blacken seeds....with a burnt taste~! the .....storz and bickel plenty vape].... was gentle enough to vape seeds without burning them...

 

[1Starway7]

After one night of drying ..closeup of.... molecule coated rue seed!... ...Zoom photos to get a closer look at the molecule jacket..! cleanly vaped seeds in last two 1586/1587 photos..using plenty vape... too much heat ...can burn or ...blacken seeds....with a burnt taste~! the .....storz and bickel plenty vape].... was gentle enough to vape seeds without burning them...

tryed vaping 6 seeds and felt a very light dmt effect with the rue effect..these rue seeds a quite small and also found out the seeds are temperature sensitive..they can easily burn. need to start with 18 or 20 seeds next time...the rue seeds i have ...are quite small....

Using my E mesh...not the standard E mesh... / the one i created........True E mesh convection !. and ceramic health stone .........[.was a little too hot and burnt the seed....on this first try....at the right temperature it should not burn/and the rue vapor should be near tastless /and almost invisable to the eye...

Need to try more seed next time .... and adjust the temperature DOWN!... on next try...

one problem with E mesh is that it heats for about 10 seconds and shuts off..[a fast vaping device]
.the... SB plenty.... easily will heat for slow gentle vaporization up to two minutes or longer...
..
vaping rue seed worked very well ..back .when i had my...... storz and bickle/plenty desk top vape... ...with the plenty vape... it took about 2 minutes of.... ...slow! gentle heating...

to gently remove the actives from rue seed .. without burning the seed or the actives...that gentleness.. also had a positive effect on the molecule when vaped..usually the

experiance was near tastless..like breathing in fresh air! The high was very freindly and gentle / but suprisingly strong!


The buzz using my plenty..[even with small dose.....was like feeling the best youve ever felt... taking a walk through a field full of flowers /sun shning over head /and any nice thing you want to see .. would sudenly be there......just by will of thought... all this from a light dose ! ... the pure slow vaporization of the Plenty vape... did not waste or destroy any of the low dose molecule...
acurate vaporization of a quality vapes like the ...S/B..plenty..or the... S/B.Volcano.....made a small dose feel like a medium dose ....no waste of molecule at all!
i may get another plenty vape...

In my experiance it seems .. most common cheap vapes can vape the ..D molecule extreemly fast... causing a canon blast off effect...that sends you into a very amazing inner world... that is usually hard to recall everything easily...some people like this type of trip/but others like more control in the trip...

point im making.. is that it seems ..... a slower more gentle vaporization.... of the molecule does less damage to the molecule.... and can give one a cleaner /gentler/ more positive molecule experiance ... and even with smaller dosage...because acurate slower vaporization of molecule is simply cleaner vaping! just my opinion!

 

[1Starway7]

tryed vaping 6 seeds and felt a very light dmt effect with the rue effect..these rue seeds a quite small and also found out the seeds are temperature sensitive..they can easily burn. need to start with 18 or 20 seeds next time...the rue seeds i have ...are quite small....

Using my E mesh...not the standard E mesh... / the one i created........True E mesh convection !. and ceramic health stone .........[.was a little too hot and burnt the seed....on this first try....at the right temperature it should not burn/and the rue vapor should be near tastless /and almost invisable to the eye...

Need to try more seed next time .... and adjust the temperature DOWN!... on next try...

one problem with E mesh is that it heats for about 10 seconds and shuts off..[a fast vaping device]
.the... SB plenty.... easily will heat for slow gentle vaporization up to two minutes or longer...
..
vaping rue seed worked very well ..back .when i had my...... storz and bickle/plenty desk top vape... ...with the plenty vape... it took about 2 minutes of.... ...slow! gentle heating...

to gently remove the actives from rue seed .. without burning the seed or the actives...that gentleness.. also had a positive effect on the molecule when vaped..usually the

experiance was near tastless..like breathing in fresh air! The high was very freindly and gentle / but suprisingly strong!


The buzz using my plenty..[even with small dose.....was like feeling the best youve ever felt... taking a walk through a field full of flowers /sun shning over head /and any nice thing you want to see .. would sudenly be there......just by will of thought... all this from a light dose ! ... the pure slow vaporization of the Plenty vape... did not waste or destroy any of the low dose molecule...
acurate vaporization of a quality vapes like the ...S/B..plenty..or the... S/B.Volcano.....made a small dose feel like a medium dose ....no waste of molecule at all!
i may get another plenty vape...

In my experiance it seems .. most common cheap vapes can vape the ..D molecule extreemly fast... causing a canon blast off effect...that sends you into a very amazing inner world... that is usually hard to recall everything easily...some people like this type of trip/but others like more control in the trip...

point im making.. is that it seems ..... a slower more gentle vaporization.... of the molecule does less damage to the molecule.... and can give one a cleaner /gentler/ more positive molecule experiance ... and even with smaller dosage...because acurate slower vaporization of molecule is simply cleaner vaping! just my opinion!

this time i tryed coating the seeds ....another way..... without the alcohol soak...
at first i used a microwave ...but then just heated the bottom of dish with lighter containing a number of rue seeds and crystal molecule ..heated dish till it started to become an oil just ...[short of vaporization]...then stirred the rue seeds around till it picked up most of the oil....
I was concerned that the alcohol soak may have removed a lot of the rue actives...so i did it this way....