Warning

[Chrono Temporal]

"Warning

DMT is a bottomless well of never ending confoundment... It will call into question all that you know, all you’ve learned to accept as reality, and introduce you to a state of being which defies all comprehension.

...not all who choose to open the door deal well with the questions it raises.

Should you choose to proceed, be aware that integration issues may follow. What you find inside may change your life. It will almost certainly alter your deepest, most fundamental assumptions."

Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

My question and thread is related to these sentences in the Health and Safety Guidelines.

How has using DMT changed your thoughts regarding: life, death, reality, science, neurology, consciousness and perception?

 

[۩]

There are a lot of threads where members chime in on this topic. Here is one, for example:

Why you should NOT take DMT - First steps in Hyperspace - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[Bill Cipher]

I wrote that cryptic little warning and I stand by every word of it.

I expanded on my own experience in the thread that House kindly linked, but all I can say is this isn't for everyone. It's an extraordinary gift, but one that can kick the ever loving dog shit out of you.

 

[Felnik]

You got that right Art , I think the shit was kicked out of me for the last time . I thought I could handle it but it gets far weirder than I ever thought possible. Trying to grapple with it as we speak .

All I can say is f####$% Wow !

 

[scudge]

MORE!MORE!MORE!

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

felnik - so you used to get the same sinario over and over with these enitites that you wanted answers from, right? then your last trip (or recent) it threw a curve ball at you and changed it up, right? dmt, man... it is something else... take care while tripping ok.

 

[Chrono Temporal]

There are a lot of threads where members chime in on this topic. Here is one, for example:

Why you should NOT take DMT - First steps in Hyperspace - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

I read though it and it didn't answer my question. Nor has anyone who responded here unfortunately.

Should I rephrase the question?

A common example is some users now think a multiverse exists which they didn't think of before.
Another one is some think DMT lets us see what's around us, as if the hyperspace co-exists with us but is invisible to the naked eye.

 

[a1pha]

Should I rephrase the question?

Could you? I thought vovin's post was a nice response to your OP.

 

[Chrono Temporal]

Should I rephrase the question?

Could you? I thought vovin's post was a nice response to your OP.

Vovin said DMT will grant you with more questions than answers.

So what are these questions? and how have they changed the one who first sought answers?

EDIT
By the way this was the question:

How has using DMT changed your thoughts regarding: life, death, reality, science, neurology, consciousness and perception?

 

[a1pha]

How has using DMT changed your thoughts regarding: life, death, reality, science, neurology, consciousness and perception?

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[۩]

Smoke DMT and see for yourself.

 

[Bancopuma]

This isn't something you can begin to explain or describe in words I'm afraid. The only way to move forward is to smoke DMT and have the experience for yourself...if you wish. I have been smoking DMT and drinking ayahuasca for a little while now, but my first full on breakthrough took place just a few weeks ago...and for me, it was a game changer. No amount of previous psychedelic experience or even DMT experience could have possibly prepared me.

 

[tony]

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The answer to life, the universe and everything :lol:

Douglas Adams FTW.

In answer to OP, I'm in the same boat as Bancopuma... words escape me when it comes to DMT, I have written several relatively in depth reports of other drugs I have taken (notable fly agaric and MXE), but I have given up trying to explain my DMT experiences. I tried when I first took it and the writing seemed hollow compared to the experience. if there are words that describe some of the sensations then I am not aware of them. All I can really say, and this will sound cliche and stereotypical, is that vaping DMT has really made me question our perceived reality, our concept of time (which we already know is an illusion), our relationship with matter, our understanding of our universe as having 3 dimensions, our assumption that matter is what is required for life... I don't know if any of these things can be answered and I'm not always convinced that I am better off having glimpsed the "other side" and presented myself with these (possibly, at present) unsolvable riddles. No drug, no dream, no experience I have had or read about prepared me for what opens up through the use of DMT.

 

[DeMenTed]

Before i tried dmt i couldn't really imagine or visualize what a different dimension could be like.

After dmt i can totally see how other dimensions can co-exist side by side. So you could say that dmt has upped my science IQ

 

[wrists]

I think I learned that life and death are as they should be. one would be a madman to even try to change what is.
although the path of life could be guided the end is still inevitable.
as for conciousness we are all connected to some main stream at a primitive level.
I also think the answers to all my questions are already available, I just have to be open and ready to see

there is more "revelations" daily. I am trying to sort subjective from what could be real. I can only think of one way to know for sure but that would possibly involve the end of my connection to the conscious stream. I can at the moment hope it's not permanent.

otherworldly, hellish, funny, bizarre, powerful, definately not to be taken too lightly or seriously.

thanks

 

[Guyomech]

I had a lot of experience with the "slower" psychedelics before trying the spice... And I think that prepared me in so many ways that made it pissible for me to at least partially parse, interpret and integrate my experience. My previous journeys on LSD or shrooms had shown me that time was subjective, that everything is connected, that we are all one. That in a sense we are immortal, and that love and the immediate felt experience are of inexpressible value, and that pursuit of material and egotistical rewards is empty and worthless. You are responsible for making your own reality.

This stuff was all familiar to me when I first tried DMT, which brought me to essentially the same understandings, except on hyperwarp drive. All of this is spelled out in a seamless, mathematically perfect visual language that is impossible to deny and makes total and absolute sense when you look at it. I think that encountering this experience without a long psychedelic warmup, it would have been extremely difficult for me to remember, much less integrate, the experience.

 

[vovin]

Everything is filled with desire, DMT a million times so. What you will get from the experience depends entirely on what you expect. The questions you set forth to answer in the most basic of senses just become more complex. Things become clearer but more difficult.

It's like college. If you focus only on one semester at a time you get frustrated by the insanity of your courses that make little to no sense at the time. It is only when you near the end ( not that this journey has a end) do you begin to see the pieces come together. There is a divine symmetry to the system that cannot be seen at the micro cosmic scale. A greater picture, DMT allows you to step away but for a second and look at the greater picture, get your bearings and to reinforce your faith in the journey that you have chosen to undertake. One that is the most difficult path, for some of us it is not by choice.

DMT is a compass that allows one who seeks greater mind to get their bearings, it does not nor will it ever offer the destination. Life is it's own destination. Living and experiencing all that you can will benefit you a million more times than any drug, including this one ever could. DMT has it's uses it is of considerable value but it is best used by those who need a little perspective on where they should go what direction in life they need to take. But the day to day decisions effect the journey far more.

If you have a 1000 piece puzzle without the middle piece the picture is incomplete. But that one piece does not make the puzzle.

Nearly every person who has taken on this mantle has went through the same cycle. they have taken of the spice and become enamored by it. Placed all of their faith in this wonder which is so simple in it's essence and when after many trials it gives not the secret that it seems to promise balked at it renounced it fervently and walked away enraged by it seductive nature. It is not the chemical that brings this about but the expectations. When used properly DMT has wondrous effects that can be a power unlike any other but it is IMHO a tool used in times when one really doesn't need it.

It is not a saving grace. It is not a prophet, or a god, it is a tool much like fire it can save life or it can destroy it depending on how it is used and most importantly when.

 

[mew]

when it comes to a breakthrough...
you are never ready, but youve always been