Washing O-Acetylpsilocin fumarate

[Seven]

Swim recently stumbled upon some O-Acetylpsilocin. Swims not sure about the mentioning of rc's here, so mods erase if need be.

Question is, how would one go about washing some slightly impure O-Acetylpsilocin fumarate?

It claims to assay at 98%, but could 2% impurities cause discoloration?

 

[RigaCrypto]

It claims to assay at 98%, but could 2% impurities cause discoloration?

Many people say yes.

From personal experience, tryptamines discolor in time without losing activity. And from some analyses conducted (you can find one on Erowid done on 4-AcO-DET), 4-AcO-tryptamines degrade mostly to the 4-HO. Which would give you psilocin if your psilacetin degrades (this is also why it is for practical purposes a scheduled substance).

I have some mipracetin that has been kept for three years at room temperature and it is grey-black. It has not lost potency at all but it feels more like miprocin now (could also be subjective bias).

 

[69ron]

It claims to assay at 98%, but could 2% impurities cause discoloration?

Many people say yes.

Yes, absolutely for sure. 100% no. But 98% yes. Even a very small amount of oxidation will discolor most alkaloids, making them darker in color. Many impurities are tough to remove. For example, 99% pure mescaline HCl, that’s been washed with acetone, then IPA, and then recrystallized in IPA can still be slightly pink in color. Some things are easier to purify than others, and SOMETIMES manufacturers actually BLEACH some of their products with various methods to make them look like they are more pure because there’s pretty much no other practical way to get rid of the coloring matter. They do this because it increases sales. People think, “it’s white so it must be pure”, or “it’s brownish, it must be very impure”. A common example: bleached flour is white, but that doesn’t mean it’s any more pure than non-bleached flower. The bleach just hides the coloring. Only certain compounds can be bleached without being destroyed so don’t try bleaching your stuff, I’m sure bleach would destroy 4-AcO-DMT.

I have some mipracetin that has been kept for three years at room temperature and it is grey-black. It has not lost potency at all but it feels more like miprocin now (could also be subjective bias).

This is probably oxidation. That’s the most common cause of chemicals becoming darker as they age. In some cases, as with DMT, the effects become noticeably different and often weaker. But this is not always the case. In some cases the oxidized chemical is stronger or has better effects. SWIM prefers DMT-N-Oxide over DMT, but it is weaker.

 

[Seven]

Ah ok. Thanks for the responses guys. Swim has heard its potent, and from a well known vendor, so it should be ok. Guess swim will be skipping the intended wash he was thinking about.

 

[RigaCrypto]

This is probably oxidation. That’s the most common cause of chemicals becoming darker as they age. In some cases, as with DMT, the effects become noticeably different and often weaker. But this is not always the case. In some cases the oxidized chemical is stronger or has better effects. SWIM prefers DMT-N-Oxide over DMT, but it is weaker.

Erowid 4-Acetoxy-DET Vaults : 4-Acetoxy-DET / Ethacetin Degradation

A look at the break down products of 4-Acetoxy-DET / Ethacetin, by Murple

www.erowid.org

According to this article, some 4-AcO-DET that had degraded to black goo over months of being kept at high temperatures unsealed was analyzed and proved to consist mainly of 4-AcO-DET, 4-HO-DET plus small quantities of these with substitutions on the indole nitrogen.