Waxy extract less strong /mg than crystal?

[ugh1979]

I had some DMT which looked like this:

Is that waxy type typically weaker per mg than crystal DMT extract?

 

[kyuss]

well, i would guess that this might be stronger than white crystals
because this would be the full-spectrum extract? i may be wrong, someone else will chime in

 

[Ambivalent]

the full spectrum is still mostly dmt. you can see the analysis thread of jungle spice (full spectrum) contributed by members of this forum.

the main hypothesis circulating here is that while smoking the full spectrum extract,the dmt inside is protected by the impurities and is not so easily burned(more efficient vaporization), hence the experienced increased potency.

 

[fry]

In getting the same results, looks almost exactly the same except mine isn't as uniform in color and has lighter spots, I made all mine in to enhanced leaf.
it takes a few days to completely dry from greasy to waxy but smokes much easier now and tastes a bit better, I have yet to get much more than mild visuals on the stuff and that takes 3-5 large determined puffs, I recently added quite a bit more to my already enhanced leaf.

The raw crystals I got from room temperature precipitation was far more potent but I still didn't break through on 60mg with the ash sandwich method.

 

[Ambivalent]

was far more potent but I still didn't break through on 60mg with the ash sandwich method.

60 mg is alot. you either have very impure spice, or you need to find a better smoking technique.

recommended dosages are in the range from 20-25 to 50-60mg (which is already a massive dose for most people).

i rarely find a person that needs dose higher than 30-40 mg to break-thru.

from what i have observed usually bigger people with more body mass need slightly higher dosages.

fry, what kind of instrument do you use to hold the spice, if i may ask ?

 

[ugh1979]

I've been trying 50mg and haven't broken through. The closest I got was on 60mg. I'm going to just try 100mg next time as I guess I must be wasting a lot. I'm not a smoker so can't inhale smoke as easily as many people.

I'm using a meth-pipe, and may well have been burning it despite trying not to! I've read a very good guide on this forum so will try again.

I know it's not the best form to take it but as I don't smoke I have no smokings substances or ash.

 

[Ambivalent]

I've been trying 50mg and haven't broken through. The closest I got was on 60mg. I'm going to just try 100mg next time as I guess I must be wasting a lot. I'm not a smoker so can't inhale smoke as easily as many people.

you should infuse that orange spice on some herbs(mint tea smokes fine), and smoke through a bong. those are very good options for a novice explorer. edit : there is a tek in the wiki for herb infusion using only water to infuse the dmt.

when infused on herbs, you reduce the risk to burn the spice.

and when smoked through bong, you can control how much you inhale, and leave some vapour in the chamber for more convenience.

 

[fry]

there's a sticky in this forum about breaking through, it says to pack way more than needed and just count your hits until you get a hang of it, I suggest you give it a read, also if you do get a break through let us know, I have yet to be determined enough to keep pushing it.

I smoke marijuana regularly and this stuff is not easy for me to smoke either.

 

[Ambivalent]

I smoke marijuana regularly and this stuff is not easy for me to smoke either.

its probably because you are burning the spice plus its impure. clean dmt is not harsh on the lungs. be aware of that.

 

[3rdI]

Puff tuff people:surprised

 

[fry]

I smoke marijuana regularly and this stuff is not easy for me to smoke either.

its probably because you are burning the spice plus its impure. clean dmt is not that harsh on the lungs. be aware of that.

yes I had 60mg of slightly of white almost pearl colored crystals that tasted funky but surprisingly smooth.. wish I had a lot more of that.. All I got is this way stuff.. well had, I made it all in to enhanced leaf but haven't tried it yet since I added more.

 

[ugh1979]

there's a sticky in this forum about breaking through, it says to pack way more than needed and just count your hits until you get a hang of it, I suggest you give it a read, also if you do get a break through let us know, I have yet to be determined enough to keep pushing it.

I smoke marijuana regularly and this stuff is not easy for me to smoke either.

Yeah I just read it today. Very helpful and will take not thanks.

 

[ugh1979]

I've been trying 50mg and haven't broken through. The closest I got was on 60mg. I'm going to just try 100mg next time as I guess I must be wasting a lot. I'm not a smoker so can't inhale smoke as easily as many people.

you should infuse that orange spice on some herbs(mint tea smokes fine), and smoke through a bong. those are very good options for a novice explorer. edit : there is a tek in the wiki for herb infusion using only water to infuse the dmt.

when infused on herbs, you reduce the risk to burn the spice.

and when smoked through bong, you can control how much you inhale, and leave some vapour in the chamber for more convenience.

Interesting idea, thanks.