We Die To Remember God

[kingkingking]

A while ago i had 3 grams of some not entirely pure yellowish DMT i got for free.
I tried various methods of administring this substance since i dont have a crack
pipe. The method that worked best for me was mixing the DMT with a cigarette
in a plastic bag and heating it up for a minute under a laptop battery, so that it
melts together, then i put it in a freezer for about an hour until it became solid.
Then i chopped it up and mixed it with a gram of cannabis, heated it up a little
so that everything became one and let it dry for about a day. Now i had some
kind of wannabe-changa that works and burns 10 times better when smoking
through a bong and you can even roll doobies with this. Anyways, i decided to
give away almost everything since i wanted my friends to experience this rare
experience aswell and they have thanked me for sharing and so did my heart.
I could only experience the introduction until i started mixing with it no matter
wich smoking method i used. Now it became possible to fully break through by
holding in atleast 5 major hits. I have only broken through once and i am sure
that there are deeper levels of breaking through but this is what happened for
me. I was hitting the bong like 4 times and i was listening to the ringing when i
suddenly realized that it was an actual telepathic language asking me, are you
ready to die? after thinking about it for a while, i took a huge hit out of curiosity
and fell back watching an endless loop of sacred geometry with my eyes closed.
And then there was this explosion coming from the center of my skull that blew
away every wall around it and i was like nooo, i dont want to leave my mother,
father, sister, brother and everything else that i care for. I got calmed down by
some kind of crackling insect that explained how it is everyone and everything.
Everything that it knows is everything that exists, reality is like a program that
it has created from nothing to experience itself and forget that it is everything.
Its like looking inwards and finding out the connection between your eyes and
the all seeing eye that every eye in the world is connected to. I was not ready
to go deeper than this because i was scared of being reborn and starting over
as a child. I have struggled to come this far out and i want to continue evolving
from where i am. Does anyone know what happens if one chooses to go all-in?

 

[BillyB]

I would say that it depends on who you are and where you are in your life, the only way to know for yourself is to take the plunge...

Not being nasty but paragraphs are kind of essential when writing something longish like you did as I struggled to read it.

You may find this interesting http://www.wedietorememberwhatwelivetoforget.com/files/We_Die_to_Remember_What_We_Live_to_Forget.pdf

Happy travels.

 

[Global]

I got calmed down by
some kind of crackling insect that explained how it is everyone and everything.
Everything that it knows is everything that exists, reality is like a program that
it has created from nothing to experience itself and forget that it is everything.
Its like looking inwards and finding out the connection between your eyes and
the all seeing eye that every eye in the world is connected to.

The godhead sometimes presents itself as a gigantic insectoid mass (though it's just one cross-section view). It's very compartmentalized.

I was not ready
to go deeper than this because i was scared of being reborn and starting over
as a child. I have struggled to come this far out and i want to continue evolving
from where i am. Does anyone know what happens if one chooses to go all-in?

Well, you didn't die, so you're not going to be reborn, at least not in the literal sense. It may be more helpful for you to think of your death-rebirth imagery on as many symbolic levels as you can, other than the death of the physical body. So what happens if you decide to go all in? None of us can say. The mystery that is DMT is just simply too big and unpredictable to make many rational predictions of what might happen without simply doing it to find out, but some of the possibilities include a more intense and grand version of the experience you've had (it can always get more intense and bigger no matter how big you think your breakthrough might be at the time).

Another possibility is that the kind of breakthrough you had is that (and I mean in no way to discount this breakthrough you've had as "special" ) DMT has reserved sometimes a certain class of breakthroughs for which the only word I can come up with is 'special'. The experience you've had is a unifying mystical experience and is held in the highest regards by some, and indeed that can be a very important and life-changing experience in its own right, but any number of things may have happened from being revealed sacred knowledge, being shown precious places/things/entities, experiencing the feminine side to the DMT experience with its loving, motherly Goddess energy, etc...And on the other side of things, pushing it too far could also invoke much more negative experiences too. Perhaps you got lucky and hit a sweet spot for you, and further may have brought about less pleasant company.

 

[Kurukulla]

I would say that it depends on who you are and where you are in your life, the only way to know for yourself is to take the plunge...

Not being nasty but paragraphs are kind of essential when writing something longish like you did as I struggled to read it.

You may find this interesting http://www.wedietorememberwhatwelivetoforget.com/files/We_Die_to_Remember_What_We_Live_to_Forget.pdf

Happy travels.

Thanks for that link - brilliant !

 

[kingkingking]

Not being nasty but paragraphs are kind of essential when writing something longish like you did as I struggled to read it.

You may find this interesting http://www.wedietorememberwhatwelivetoforget.com/files/We_Die_to_Remember_What_We_Live_to_Forget.pdf

Happy travels.

I read what i wrote in about 30 seconds, it could of been a longer version with more details about reality changing into an alien enviroment where fractals are infinite and everything is abstract but its hard to explain the experience with words.

Happy travels to you aswell.

Well, you didn't die, so you're not going to be reborn, at least not in the literal sense. It may be more helpful for you to think of your death-rebirth imagery on as many symbolic levels as you can, other than the death of the physical body. So what happens if you decide to go all in? None of us can say. The mystery that is DMT is just simply too big and unpredictable to make many rational predictions of what might happen without simply doing it to find out, but some of the possibilities include a more intense and grand version of the experience you've had (it can always get more intense and bigger no matter how big you think your breakthrough might be at the time).

Sounds risky to me, i might of been given the option to start something new but i was afraid since i dont know what it is.

Another possibility is that the kind of breakthrough you had is that (and I mean in no way to discount this breakthrough you've had as "special" ) DMT has reserved sometimes a certain class of breakthroughs for which the only word I can come up with is 'special'. The experience you've had is a unifying mystical experience and is held in the highest regards by some, and indeed that can be a very important and life-changing experience in its own right, but any number of things may have happened from being revealed sacred knowledge, being shown precious places/things/entities, experiencing the feminine side to the DMT experience with its loving, motherly Goddess energy, etc...And on the other side of things, pushing it too far could also invoke much more negative experiences too. Perhaps you got lucky and hit a sweet spot for you, and further may have brought about less pleasant company.

Global, you sure do know what you are talking about.

I have actully experienced the feminine side and it felt like it was my mother. Me and a friend of mine have both seen a woman in a mayan circle when we smoked on 21 december 2012, and it felt like there was a feminine spirit in the room heating up my heart. On the other side, i have been portrayed as a junkie from a third perspective when trying to break through with force.

 

[kingkingking]

Once, when i smoked it outside in nature i saw 2 insects infront of me flying back and forth in a straight line but in a opposite direction of each other. They did that for a few minutes as if they were trying to communicate with me or something.

Is there a explenation for this?

 

[112233]

Once, when i smoked it outside in nature i saw 2 insects infront of me flying back and forth in a straight line but in a opposite direction of each other. They did that for a few minutes as if they were trying to communicate with me or something.

Is there a explenation for this?

Sarcasm?

 

[embracethevoid]

Nirvikalpa Samadhi, look it up.


When you go all-in, everything disappears. Even the canvas on which everything is displayed. Then it will come back and you will forget everything you have ever known and have to learn from scratch.

The godhead sometimes presents itself as a gigantic insectoid mass (though it's just one cross-section view). It's very compartmentalized.

Sometimes as an infinite noodly creature whose noodly tendrils are of the nature of divine light

Once, when i smoked it outside in nature i saw 2 insects infront of me flying back and forth in a straight line but in a opposite direction of each other. They did that for a few minutes as if they were trying to communicate with me or something.

Is there a explenation for this?

The self is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of its light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- The self guides to its light whom it pleases, and the self sets forth parables for men, and the self is cognizant of all things.

 

[Global]

I have actully experienced the feminine side and it felt like it was my mother. Me and a friend of mine have both seen a woman in a mayan circle when we smoked on 21 december 2012, and it felt like there was a feminine spirit in the room heating up my heart.

That made me smile The motherly Goddess energy I've experienced also seemed to be working on my heart. It was like the most loving, peaceful, motherly, adorable feeling right at my heart. You seemed to have had the added bonus of a shared, ancient, context-appropriate experience which is just awesome :shock: :thumb_up:

 

[DeDao]

I don't know what happens when you go "all-in", but I can tell you that I have had similar experiences where I realize the same things you did..

Isn't it weird how everyone comes back ranting and raving about the same message?

 

[3rdI]

Isn't it weird how everyone comes back ranting and raving about the same message?

To play devils advocate for a second, maybe everyone comes back raving the same message because thats what happens when the brain is stimulated in certain ways:twisted:

 

[DeDao]

Then tell me why that was programmed into us?

*waits for an answer*


:thumb_up:

 

[3rdI]

well maybe it wasnt programmed into us, maybe it is just the result of the emergence of intelegence in a lifeform. When the brain/mind becomes sufficiently advanced then certain paths develop and then the manipulation of the brain/mind by either spiritual practices or certain drugs lead to a certain type of experience.

a guy i know (who is a very clever fella and used to work for the physics department of Oxford uni) has an idea that the emergence of spirituality/God is simply a subconscious self justification of our existence which developed in early man.

:thumb_up:

 

[Global]

a guy i know (who is a very clever fella and used to work for the physics department of Oxford uni) has an idea that the emergence of spirituality/God is simply a subconscious self justification of our existence which developed in early man.

:thumb_up:

Justification? Sounds like he's saying it's a superstitious explanatory model. I'm not quite buying that.

 

[3rdI]

im not saying i buy it either.

It may not be justification that he meant, im paraphrasing, i think it was more like an idea that emerges along with intelegence which helps to explain how we came to be at the point we are at, at a time when we didnt have the ability/knowledge to explain it any other way. He is a materialist reductionist type guy and i think he would now say that science has replaced God and it can/will explain how we got here.

or something like that

 

[Global]

im not saying i buy it either.

It may not be justification that he meant, im paraphrasing, i think it was more like an idea that emerges along with intelegence which helps to explain how we came to be at the point we are at, at a time when we didnt have the ability/knowledge to explain it any other way. He is a materialist reductionist type guy and i think he would now say that science has replaced God and it can/will explain how we got here.

or something like that

Well then that could satisfy God - the explanatory model of the universe - but it doesn't explain away God - the mystical experience - in which some of us seemingly partake via DMT.

 

[3rdI]

well how about thats just what DMT ect does? you take it and it can produces these mystical experiences.

just to reiterate this isnt what i believe, im just playing devils advocate.

But i do find it strange that quite often people take a horrifically strong hallucinagen and then claim that what they experience is true beyond all doubt because they experienced it, well what did youthink was gonna happen? you just took a massively powerfull drug

 

[Global]

There's of course a big missing link somewhere in between a DMT molecule interfacing with the brain, and the subsequent production and perception of the actual experience. I mean in no way to imply that the experiences are true beyond all doubt, but it seems equally foolhardy to fully write them off as simple drug experiences as well.

 

[kingkingking]

When you go all-in, everything disappears. Even the canvas on which everything is displayed. Then it will come back and you will forget everything you have ever known and have to learn from scratch.

Do you mean that i would come out as a baby?

That made me smile The motherly Goddess energy I've experienced also seemed to be working on my heart. It was like the most loving, peaceful, motherly, adorable feeling right at my heart. You seemed to have had the added bonus of a shared, ancient, context-appropriate experience which is just awesome :shock: :thumb_up:

True.

Isn't it weird how everyone comes back ranting and raving about the same message?

Its weird but understandable because all nature wants is for us to wake up to the fact that everything is one so that we can work together for a better tomorrow. We should not hate the thing that feeds us every day.

 

[3rdI]

There's of course a big missing link somewhere in between a DMT molecule interfacing with the brain, and the subsequent production and perception of the actual experience. I mean in no way to imply that the experiences are true beyond all doubt, but it seems equally foolhardy to fully write them off as simple drug experiences as well.

Well this is exactly my point of view so I can't argue with you.

I think he said that things like the god helmet showed that specific manipulation of the brain could produce mystical states and that even if science couldn't currently give a precise answer as to what DMT did it soon would and that eventually neuroscience would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all these experiences were just temperately pickled brain function