• Members of the previous forum can retrieve their temporary password here, (login and check your PM).

What a headache!

NeitherHere

Going where life takes me.
Donator
Heads up, this is a LONG post That is still in forst draft stage
----
In this post I will be sharing anecdotal reports of my experience managing migraine and cluster headache activity with N,N,DMT and Psilocybin.

I will be sharing resources from relevant organizations and referenced resources for each condition and personal experience reports for managing either condition and both together via low dose psilocybin and DMT.

At a later date personal preferences and directionals for creating expedient "remedied" involving these substances for the use of treatment may also be added for PERSONAL reference. What you do with that information is also up to you, be safe, be responsible.

This post is currently in rough draft, I have adhd and neurological conditions that make projects like this a bit challenging for myself so this may be revised and edited by AI and proofread by the myself for quality. It may include direct quotation,paraphrasing, and personal opinions.

This is NOT medical advice. What you do with your body is your responsibility to bear. I am sharing this information because I am actively living through these neurological disorders and hope that sharing what I learn and know may possibly benefit a fellow Nexian even if it's just one.

THIS POST IS NOT COMPLETE OR R/E/P - FINALIZED.


Post content as follows
---

Cluster headaches, also refered to "suicide headaches" are reported to be one if the most painful conditions known to man. One resource I am reviewing states that "clusterheads" (cluster headache sufferers) are upwards of 10x more likely to attempt or successfully commit suicide. And as such should be approached with serious harm reduction in mind when a serious attack comes on .This condition is more common in men but does occur in women. The usual age if diagnosis is between the mid 20s - 50's. These headaches can have a remission period for some people and may be non existent for others. Some cluster heads report 30+ years of recurring headaches while others claim they haven't had one in 15 years. My longest remission has been 6 months and my shortest as small as 3 days. People experiencing cluster headaches usually experience associated headaches consistently on one side of the head usually around the eye for 15 minutes - 3+ hours in duration that are recurrent at 1 to 8 or more headaches daily for anywhere from 3 days to several months or even year round depending on if the cluster is episodic or chronic in nature The effects are jarring and outright disabling for many. You may get faint clues of an impending attack known as "shadows" similair to migraine and seizure "auras" but different in regards to what happens. MY shadows usually include a very subtle pain like a hammer being tapped on my eye and forehead rather than the hammer being repetitively SLAMMED into my eye like it feels when the attack is active.i may get a bit nauseated, and sometimes I get this unusual sensation that something is about to happen. This sensation is hard to explain but i have repetitively predicted cluster attacks without pre existing pain. It's almost like my brain sets off alarm bells as soon as an attack is coming. Hard to say why that is but at this point its pretty reliable, usually i'm able to predict an attack within 30 minutes of actual headache activity. Once a cluster headache starts the pain can peak within a matter of minutes and drag in for hours on end. Patients describe feeling like they've been in a car accident, have been stabbed in the eye by a red hot iron, pain as if they've been shot in the face or as if they've been kicked by s large animal in the eye. What is persistent about this condition is that it sticks to ONE side of the head and the pain is focalized around the eye itself. There's a nerve that runs along the sinuses around the eye that misbehaves causing this insanely painful condition, ill update this post to be more accurate as I go.

There are 2 reported types; chronic and episodic. The latter being more commonly reported and usually occuring at season change around spring and fall. These headaches are also believed to follow circadian rhythm. Many people report that they have their attacks at almost predictable times . For myself they seem to occur at moderate intensity around 9am and then severe intensity just after sunset.

What causes or initiates cluster headaches is still a mystery although the field of neurology acknowledges that a specific nerve is associated with the condition. Some known triggers that aggravate cluster headache activity include alcohol of any variety,nicotine, season change, and circadian rhythm disruption. Many people report different triggers and most sufferers have no understanding of what set off the attacks aside from time clues such as season change.
I know for myself that getting upset especially angry can trigger an attack, usually these are even more intense clusters than non prevoked ones and come with little to no warning.

It is believed that these headaches are linked to deficiencies in vitamin D, melatonin, and serotonin.

Common pharmaceutical remedies include;
Gabapentin
Verapamil
Corticosteroids
Triptans
Oxygen therapy
Lidocaine application in the sinuses against the associated nerve

Non pharmaceutical treatment include Dmt,psilocybin, and other psychedelics involved in serotonin manipulation such as LSD,LSA, and mescaline.

Ketamine and mdma are less effective and i've read mdma may actually worsen and prolong headache activity of this sort.many "clusterheads" report high dosage caffeine, large volumes of water, and vigorous exercises help tame the attacks when one feels a "shadow" or early indicator. Seizure patients call a similar experience an "aura".

Personally I can tell 2-30 minutes before an attack sets in because my right eye will begin to throb or ache just enough to notice. I can tell "the boogeyman" is there, but he hasn't quiet shown his ugly face yet. Almost as if a claw has touched my foot but the monster still lurks. Within 20 minutes i'm in absolute agony.

Cluster headaches are also called "the beast" among many patients because if its ruthless and relentless nature.

Another interesting report that I've read claims that a study was done on 1,600 cluster heads. 25 of which had been shot at some point and apparently every single one of them reported that they would rather be shot again that endure another cluster headache. I'm here to tell you that as a gunshot survivor I whole heartedly agree and openly shared the same sentiment before ever finding out that it is a common sentiment among similar cluster heads. As a chronic pain patient cluster headaches are by far the absolutely mist profound pain I deal with, so much so that i've accidentally fractured my hand in a pain induced tirade and didn't notice until the attack ended.

Things that are reported ineffective in the treatment if cluster headaches;
Nsaids (without caffeine)
Prescription opiates (users like myself report the pain persists but the sedation leaves them apathetic)
Sleep ( trying to sleep with a cluster headache is like trying to sleep with a mule kicking you in the eye, its just not going to happen.)

other cluster heads and I have found that psilocybin and dmt are incredibly effective at aborting or minimizing cluster attacks significantly.
(THIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE!)
In MY experience,Dmt is offers IMMEDIATE abortion at sub breakthrough dosages though some minor pain may be present as you come down, I have found the attack cycles are shorter taking days off the cycle and the severity is less intense.

"Lemon tek" Low dose psilocybin has shown to provide me upwards of 20+ hours totally symptom free with as little as .5 g soaked in orange juice for a few hours with an "emergenC" vitamin c supplement mixed in just before drinking.

Cluster busters is a great organization to look at in regards to CH

they even offer suicide prevention contact numbers for multiple nations, these are known as suicide headaches for a reason. They are, at best torturous and demented headaches capable of great psychological distress.

These contacts should be suicide prevention regardless of situation. You do not have to have these neurological problems to call. Sometimes all it takes is to feel heard, if the thoughts are coming up, speak out.. don't be alone, and more importantly trust who ever you talk with.



On the topic of migraines
Migraines are a complex and chronic headache condition which often consists of throbbing headache, sensitivity to light and/or sound ,may come with nausea, and can last for days on end. Migraines can interfere with day today activities and are documented across the world as a disability because of how intense and difficult they can be. Some patients may be able to work through them depending on occupation and accomodations, however, migraines can be so intense that patients often report nausea and vomiting due to the pain.

Catalysts and aggravating factors may include;
Strong odors
Exposure to aromatic and volatile chemicals
Caffeine withdrawal
Head injury
Changes in mood especially involving anger

Patients often report of an "aura" or early indication to an impending episode such as difficulty speaking, tingling sensation, and perceived flashes of light.

There are 4 stages to migraines and apparently its not uncommon for an individual to not experience

The following data is from Mayoclinic

Prodrome:
Constipation
Mood change from depression to euphoria
Food cravings and increased appetite
Neck stiffness
Increased urination
Fluid retention
Increased yawning

Aura or pre migraine symptomology:

Usually reversible neurological responses that are typically visual in nature

Seeing shapes, visual anomalies like light, and bright flashes of perceived light

Vision loss

Pins and needles sensation usually in limbs

Weakness or numbness in face or extremities

Difficulty speaking.

Some of these symptoms are similar to stroke symptoms and should be investigated if they worsen without apparent migraine activity because they mimic even more serious health problems.

Migraine attack
These can last a few hours to 3 days or beyond if undermanaged
The following directly c/p from mayoclinic

  • Pain usually on one side of your head, but often on both sides.
  • Pain that throbs or pulses.
  • Sensitivity to light, sound, and sometimes smell and touch.
  • Nausea and vomiting.
Post drome (post attack)

You may feel weak, exhausted, mildly confused or disoriented and generally unwell for a short period. Some patients report feeling much better, these are probably patients with severe attacks who have become accustomed to the ailment and are just glad its passed.


Migraines are a genetic disorder meaning there may be or could be ongoing migraine activity within the family either from elders and family or to children down the line. It can be passed down genetically.

Migraine studies historically have not focused on male/female relativity but evidence shows that women and people of lgbt lifestyles may be more at risk. NIH acknowledges that hormonal changes may leave women more susceptible to migraine activity during menstration and pregnancy and that activity is likely to drop off at menopause. Removal of ovaries apparently can make migraines more frequent and aggressive according to this resource.

NIH also says that native americans are more likely to have migraines than other racial/ethnic demographics (in the U.S.) and that the unemployed or impoverished are also at increased risk.










 
Last edited:
sorry I haven't been around to finish this post up. I've been fighting a vestibular migraine with a cluster attack. life is hell at the moment. if you have any questions on the topic or need some guidance or just to feel like someone hears you feel free to PM me. I may not get to finishing this post until after the holidays. a lot of financial bottle necks are coming up and I'm not prepared for a single one of them.
 
Back
Top Bottom