What are your politics?

[JDSalinger]

So you think that opposition to Muslim immigration perpetuates more negativity than the mass Taharrush sexual assaults, and other social mayhem that is perpetrated by Muslim migrants? More negativity than the attempts to cover up these widespread attacks, and blame the victims?
Are you aware of the Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal, where some 1400 British schoolgirls as young as 12 were raped, tortured, and pimped by a gang of Pakistanis over the years 1997-2014, and all this was actively covered up by police for fear of appearing 'racist' if they arrested the Pakistanis... Instead they arrested parents for reporting the rape of their children.
But please, tell me how racist Europeans are getting themselves all worked up over nothing.

It is the cover-ups and the political correctness, the clamp-down on cognitive liberty, that foments the most ugly mob mentalities. Because more and more people can see that the Emperor wears no clothes, and if the so-called "extreme right wing" are the only people willing to say so, then they will get the popular support, simple as that.

Unlike most liberals, I've actually read the Quran, and it's a nightmare.

Your vision of Eden does not work practically or theoretically. It ignores the presence of psychopathic evil on this planet, which does not have the capacity for Love. All the Love in the world will not make a difference.

Humanity is naturally compassionate and empathetic, it is our greatest strength and also our greatest weakness because it is so easily exploited by those who have no use for compassion and empathy, except as a means of manipulation. They WANT us to be in a state of perpetual Love, because then you can't fight back. "Love your enemy", what a crock of shit.

HATE IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT LOVE, BECAUSE LOVE CANNOT PROTECT ITSELF.

"The teaching of Love has destroyed Love." -Osho

Yes I do think there needs to be more hate. More hate towards rape, child abuse, REAL racism and oppression of indigenous peoples, corporate domination, destruction of the environment, mind control, Zionism, machinations of the NWO, and theocratic institutions such as Islam (which makes the 19th c. European colonialists look like multi-culti liberal Swedes in comparison).

If more people felt white-hot rage about these things, there would be less complacency and more action. We have to know who we are and what we stand for.

If the Arabs can murder women for being raped, surely we can murder men for raping.
It's not about race, it's about cultural values and what it takes to defend them.
Not to impose our values on others, but just to keep what has cost generations of struggle to create.

It's time to warrior-up, people. The good things in life need to be defended against those who would exploit and destroy them. Life is struggle, not a fucking tea party.

"Politcal correctness is the language of those who are terrified about what would happen if they stopped lying." -Pierre Menant

You have brought up a lot of events which show migrant muslim attacks on white Europeans, it is obvious you are very smart, I could do the same and we'd go back and forth all day. Yes, oppression/violence against women is a huge problem in Muslim countries, it is too in India, I am not denying anything. I am a realist, I say the answer is to love, I also know people must be punished for their actions. How does me trying to be a nice person mean I won't stop a sexual assault?

I am assuming you are against Muslim immigration right? Lets back this up to 9/11, I mean really Osama Bin Laden was justified in attacking America, it was retaliation for a trade embargo on Iraq since the first Gulf war and continued until the Coalition invaded again, resulting in thousands of unnecessary civilian deaths. Unfortunately the west did not see this as a provoked attacked and we are now in the mess we are in today, mass Muslim migration is a result of our actions, or the governments, which you claim are 'good' BTW.

So now we are here with a problem which we should of had the foresight to see coming. And your solution to this is more violence and hate? I really cannot see the logic in that, sorry most of these people are already here, living next door to us and you suggest that we make them feel more alienated, isn't that kinda what has caused a lot of this already?

I do not agree with rape one bit, but to take another's life what gives you the right? I believe someone who rapes another has ruined that life and should never see free live again but to kill them is harsh my friend, there are wrongful convictions all the time and we would then be guilty of taking an innocent persons life...

BTW, I never said I was 'PC', not really sure what it means, just think its a term people who live in a bubble like to claim they are.

Just a little side note your views are striking similar to a couple of fascist/white supremacist friends I have, I just find it kinda ironic that you are gay and these people generally despise you and your lifestyle..

And no, saying you hate gay culture does not make you homophobic, hating gay people does. Just like disliking parts of Muslim culture doesn't make you a racist, what you have been writing here does though.

Very interesting discussion BTW.

 

[Godsmacker]

Put down the politics and puff on some peace instead.

 

[hug46]

PC simply reduces everything to the biggest complainers.
id offer thats the worst reduction possible.

I disagree to an extent. I translate the term political correctness as the attempts to deal with politics (the interaction between and governance of people) in a correct way. A problem with PC is when it is taken to extremes and people get needlessly offended by things which is IMO a kind of bulllying and therefore paradoxically becomes a form of political incorrectness.


An example of political correctness

Civil rights movement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

An example of political correctness gone wrong

Japan to remove swastikas from maps as tourists 'think they are Nazi symbols'

The ancient Sanskrit symbol which marks temples on Japanese maps continues to spread confusion among Western visitors

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Koornut]

Looks like Drumpf is going to get the nomination.

 

[entheogenic-gnosis]

I don't want to live on this planet anymore...

I think that all sides in all these political arguments are misinformed, truth and objectivity have fallen victim to political spin and opportunistic generation of propaganda...

-eg

 

[Ufostrahlen]

Looks like Drumpf is going to get the nomination.

Today I realized the similarities between Wally George and the Donald.

[YOUTUBE]

I don't want to live on this planet anymore...

Why? Have a laugh... The Donald vs. Jeb! is hilarious.

[YOUTUBE]

 

[hug46]

When Donald becomes president all of the (American) milksops in this thread who refuse to vote and therefore haven"t voted will have played a part in his being elected.

 

[anne halonium]

someone say trump?

peeps dont get the trump phenom.
its easy, its post voting for progress,
were voting wrecking ball now.

virtually EVERYONE i HATE on tv, hates trump,
therefore he is my first choice.
if all the crap bag politicos hate him, he must be the man.

 

[Psybin]

someone say trump?

peeps dont get the trump phenom.
its easy, its post voting for progress,
were voting wrecking ball now.

virtually EVERYONE i HATE on tv, hates trump,
therefore he is my first choice.
if all the crap bag politicos hate him, he must be the man.

Take a look everybody. This is pure, unrestrained ego. No care for ethics or consequence, just extinguishing the enemy. Anne, you disgust me.

 

[anne halonium]

but psybin...............
you act like you have a better idea to clean out cesspool washington.

you make wrecking enemies sound like a bad thing.

im with the guy who fires people on TV!
( my twin sister is down for trump also..........actually my entire crowd is.........)

 

[benzyme]

slight left libertarian, in principle, but there needs to be some serious corporate legislation reform, because corporate personhood is real bullcaca. they'd basically pollute as much as they want.

 

[Biawak]

I think we're a little past the point of worrying about ethics.

Personally, I'm ready to watch the whole sh*t house go up in flames.

May just write in "Camacho". I hear he has the most electrolytes.

 

[Ufostrahlen]

May just write in "Camacho". I hear he has the most electrolytes.

I like money, it buys me Brawndo. :d

virtually EVERYONE i HATE on tv, hates trump,
therefore he is my first choice.

An appealing idea worth considering.

 

[cosmic butterfly]

Trump Steaks for Everyone! [YOUTUBE]

i usually try to stray from politics, but one thing im pretty sure of is people that want power usually shouldn't be in power...

 

[Psybin]

but psybin...............
you act like you have a better idea to clean out cesspool washington.

you make wrecking enemies sound like a bad thing.

im with the guy who fires people on TV!
( my twin sister is down for trump also..........actually my entire crowd is.........)

I do. It's called not electing Trump. I'd love to discuss actual substantive ideas here, but this thread is clearly not the place for that. God forbid I interrupt your orgy of fetishized egomania.

 

[anne halonium]

God forbid I interrupt your orgy of fetishized egomania.

what a thoughtful considerate apology.

its cool, i dont feel interrupted at all.
team trump is express traffic on this one.
^ and thats my kind of candidate!

the only thing being interrupted is the last 40 years of dempublican duopoly corruption.
if you have something of substance, wich isnt a re-run of the same propaganda of both bought and sold partys..........
please by all means.........

in the meantime , you can find me at any trump rally!

 

[Psybin]

God forbid I interrupt your orgy of fetishized egomania.

what a thoughtful considerate apology.

its cool, i dont feel interrupted at all.
team trump is express traffic on this one.
^ and thats my kind of candidate!

the only thing being interrupted is the last 40 years of dempublican duopoly corruption.
if you have something of substance, wich isnt a re-run of the same propaganda of both bought and sold partys..........
please by all means.........

in the meantime , you can find me at any trump rally!

How about the fact that Trump's policy proposals are racist, break international laws, and he seeks to commit war crimes against innocent families. How about the fact that his wall is not only unnecessary but also not possible. You would need to croos 1900 miles with wall and that's not even taking into account all the rivers and mountains (ever heard of the Sierra Nevada and the Rio Grande?) in the way. I could go on for pages with what's wrong with his ideas, but you asked me for my solution. Personally, I'm a Sanders supporter and advocate for tuition free college funded by tax increases on the super rich and cutting military spending. I also believe in establishing a police oversight agency to manage and regulate police internal and external conduct to prevent things like unlawful practices and violations of citizens rights. There are many other things that I believe would be beneficial for this country, but none of them hinge upon discriminating against groups of people based on race or religion, or committing war crimes or xenophobic agendas.

My ideology, imperfect as it may be, is based on love. Trump's message is rooted in hate and is itself unadulterated hate-speech and war-mongering. If I'm wrong, at least my intentions are that of compassion and aid; not ego, xenophobia, hate, and fear.

 

[anne halonium]

im gonna simply suggest,
if your for bernie, we welcome you come hillary time!



and really psybin, US has zero high ground on war crimes.
the bar is pretty low, if thats your best , most american presidents would be in jail.

*note
im being shockingly tame in this thread arent i ?
im wavering on pride in civility/OMG fear im slipping.

 

[Psybin]

im gonna simply suggest,
if your for bernie, we welcome you come hillary time!



and really psybin, US has zero high ground on war crimes.
the bar is pretty low, if thats your best , most american presidents would be in jail.

*note
im being shockingly tame in this thread arent i ?
im wavering on pride in civility/OMG fear im slipping.

I'm impressed at your ability to dodge any sort of substantive debate.

 

[slewb]

I'm impressed at your ability to dodge any sort of substantive debate.

lol remind you of anyone? Surprise guys, anne is voting for the biggest troll around...