What is the best form of DMT to inject?

[chiggels]

Freebase dissolved in ethanol, DMT HCl in water, or DMT fumarate in water?

 

[expandaneum]

darklordsson wrote:
DONT USE NEEDLES.....
They are gross even though I don't mind them going to the doctor to receive (important) injections. Then they don't bother me. Its only when you decide to mutilate yourself for the sake of getting high is my problem jus smoke the stuff, like what ColorfulColorado said it serves no purpose. Just cant stand seeing someone else let alone myself doing that to myself jus to "get high"...

Gods speed love and peace, ---dls---

Who says "they" are doing it for the sake of "getting high"?

And what's this about mutilation? Just because an efficient ROA grosses you out, doesn't mean it's gross.

It could be argued that vaping/smoking drugs damages lung tissue just as much as a needle puncture, ya know?Wink

It's all relative anyways...

YES,

I'm IVing dmt fumarate sometimes because I have asthma it's a great route in my opinion. In comparison to smoking the come-up is slower then expected but then when it comes its faster then anny other route. In my arm it takes roughly 25 seconds to reach my brain so there is enough time to safely dispatch of the needle and take a bandage to cover the verry verry small hole.(in no way i'm mutilating myself)

Stay safe and before you iv make sure you know what your doing.

 

[endlessness]

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[darklordsson]

DONT USE NEEDLES.....
They are gross even though I don't mind them going to the doctor to receive (important) injections. Then they don't bother me. Its only when you decide to mutilate yourself for the sake of getting high is my problem jus smoke the stuff, like what ColorfulColorado said it serves no purpose. Just cant stand seeing someone else let alone myself doing that to myself jus to "get high"...

Gods speed love and peace, ---dls---

Who says "they" are doing it for the sake of "getting high"?

And what's this about mutilation? Just because an efficient ROA grosses you out, doesn't mean it's gross.

It could be argued that vaping/smoking drugs damages lung tissue just as much as a needle puncture, ya know?

It's all relative anyways...

As far as I know its a vapor, not harsh carcinogenic's like cigs have. If its pure enough it should do just as much damage as e-cigs, and I base this on nothing but my opinion. I cant see it really harming your lung's from my perspective. Each their own opinion, I wont inject it or anything else that's not needed to be. Just doesn't fly in my book and not worth it on its own. Sorry if I said for the sake of getting high, that was impulsive to say, but for whatever reason one is doing this its, still, not, worth, it.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

DONT USE NEEDLES.....
They are gross even though I don't mind them going to the doctor to receive (important) injections. Then they don't bother me. Its only when you decide to mutilate yourself for the sake of getting high is my problem jus smoke the stuff, like what ColorfulColorado said it serves no purpose. Just cant stand seeing someone else let alone myself doing that to myself jus to "get high"...

Gods speed love and peace, ---dls---

Who says "they" are doing it for the sake of "getting high"?

And what's this about mutilation? Just because an efficient ROA grosses you out, doesn't mean it's gross.

It could be argued that vaping/smoking drugs damages lung tissue just as much as a needle puncture, ya know?

It's all relative anyways...

As far as I know its a vapor, not harsh carcinogenic's like cigs have. If its pure enough it should do just as much damage as e-cigs, and I base this on nothing but my opinion. I cant see it really harming your lung's from my perspective...for whatever reason one is doing this its, still, not, worth, it.

Now hold on.

Someone has told you that for health reasons, they choose to go a certain route.

Why would you attempt to negate that based solely on your opinion?

I know we all have our own beliefs and reality tunnels, but when someone tells us they do something for a certain reason (especially a health reason) it behooves us to listen to them and not immediately discount their experiences based on our opinions.

I know people with asthma for whom e-cigs (or dmt or cannabis vapor) would be an absolute nightmare...I would never insist on them vaporizing anything. No one can know your body as well as you...it's a good courtesy to extend to others, imo.

 

[darklordsson]

DONT USE NEEDLES.....
They are gross even though I don't mind them going to the doctor to receive (important) injections. Then they don't bother me. Its only when you decide to mutilate yourself for the sake of getting high is my problem jus smoke the stuff, like what ColorfulColorado said it serves no purpose. Just cant stand seeing someone else let alone myself doing that to myself jus to "get high"...

Gods speed love and peace, ---dls---

Who says "they" are doing it for the sake of "getting high"?

And what's this about mutilation? Just because an efficient ROA grosses you out, doesn't mean it's gross.

It could be argued that vaping/smoking drugs damages lung tissue just as much as a needle puncture, ya know?

It's all relative anyways...

As far as I know its a vapor, not harsh carcinogenic's like cigs have. If its pure enough it should do just as much damage as e-cigs, and I base this on nothing but my opinion. I cant see it really harming your lung's from my perspective...for whatever reason one is doing this its, still, not, worth, it.

Now hold on.

Someone has told you that for health reasons, they choose to go a certain route.

Why would you attempt to negate that based solely on your opinion?

I know we all have our own beliefs and reality tunnels, but when someone tells us they do something for a certain reason (especially a health reason) it behooves us to listen to them and not immediately discount their experiences based on our opinions.

I know people with asthma for whom e-cigs (or dmt or cannabis vapor) would be an absolute nightmare...I would never insist on them vaporizing anything. No one can know your body as well as you...it's a good courtesy to extend to others, imo.

I apologize for jumping on that, if its for health reasons and helping yourself then I can understand that, I didn't take a step back to consider what else might be going on under the others idea for the reason of doing so. I completely forgot it can also be used to treat asthma. My most sincere apologies chiggles, I did not mean to offend your ideas, snozz is rite on this. Do what feels right.
Peace and love --dls--

 

[desal]

my apologies. Foolish me.

arcologist is absolutely right, the doses were measured mg/kg. and the high dose was 0.6mg/kg.

Strassman reports that heart rate in one participant leapt from 65bpm to 140 bpm in moments after the heavy dose. I imagine thats a considerable strain.

Another side effect was nausea and vomitting at the high dose. Theres probably a potential for choking here.

Actually, as arcologist said, the high dose was 0.4mg/kg, and some people had very adverse reactions to 0.4 mg/kg (some even had adverse reactions to the lower doses) 0.6mg/kg was only used on the first two participants, before the actual study began, and both of them said it was way too much for pleasure, and could not remember or talk about any of it.

The doses they used in the actual study were from 0.2 mg/kg up to 0.4mg/kg.

And he mentions in the book, also, do not use cleaned up homemade product, it is not clean enough. They were in a clinical setting as well, using saline to flush the dose through afterwards.

And to everybody who is acting like the idea is wrong.. there is a good chance it was being done before you ever heard about DMT, pretty much all sponsored / published DMT research deals with injections.. so there is no reason to hate on this poster for being curious.

 

[Adjhart]

Actually, as arcologist said, the high dose was 0.4mg/kg, and some people had very adverse reactions to 0.4 mg/kg (some even had adverse reactions to the lower doses) 0.6mg/kg was only used on the first two participants, before the actual study began, and both of them said it was way too much for pleasure, and could not remember or talk about any of it.

The doses they used in the actual study were from 0.2 mg/kg up to 0.4mg/kg.

It should be noted, though, there were a few volunteers who were given .4mg/kg and wanted more.

As you said, not everyone got that larger dose because they excluded it, but perhaps those that didn't would have had a more enjoyable or profound time.

 

[desal]

Actually, as arcologist said, the high dose was 0.4mg/kg, and some people had very adverse reactions to 0.4 mg/kg (some even had adverse reactions to the lower doses) 0.6mg/kg was only used on the first two participants, before the actual study began, and both of them said it was way too much for pleasure, and could not remember or talk about any of it.

The doses they used in the actual study were from 0.2 mg/kg up to 0.4mg/kg.

It should be noted, though, there were a few volunteers who were given .4mg/kg and wanted more.

As you said, not everyone got that larger dose because they excluded it, but perhaps those that didn't would have had a more enjoyable or profound time.

Very true.