I just want to see what people prefer and think are the healthiest psychedelics for both the mind and the body. I would also like to hear about psychedelics and phenethylamines that I haven't tried before like mescaline, 2C-D, 2C-B, 2C-E, 5-MEO-DMT, AL-LAD, DOM, etc.
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What is your favorite psychedelic and why?
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Aum_Shanti
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Honestly I think this all depends on so many factors. IMHO all these substances have their merit.
But to me personally, of all the substances I had so far, one is really pointing out very strongly: 5-MeO-DMT.
IMHO it's just so different from the others. Not from the typical tryptamine headspace, but it kinda really opens your energy channels (hard to describe) and reunites you with the all.
I just didn't experience any substance even remotely having this effect.
Some say DPT goes into that direction. 2 days ago I vaped some DPT, and although it does have a tremendous body rush I never experienced before (IMHO even stronger than 5-MeO-DMT), which IMHO let's an opioid body high glance into insignificance, it just lacks this transcendental energy bliss completely.
If you would ask me, I would say DPT opens you up to the energies of the lower planes, whereas 5-MeO-DMT opens you to the energy of the high planes. Pure bliss if you can open to it.
Otherwise these substances played a very important role in my life (had strong life changing effects): LSD and Mescaline.
But be aware that this is a very personal experienced opinion, which certainly can change in the future.
This can vary a lot between people, which is IMHO a good thing.
Edit:
Sorry I may have been a bit too harsh on DPT. Just don't listen to this judging mind... :d
But to me personally, of all the substances I had so far, one is really pointing out very strongly: 5-MeO-DMT.
IMHO it's just so different from the others. Not from the typical tryptamine headspace, but it kinda really opens your energy channels (hard to describe) and reunites you with the all.
I just didn't experience any substance even remotely having this effect.
Some say DPT goes into that direction. 2 days ago I vaped some DPT, and although it does have a tremendous body rush I never experienced before (IMHO even stronger than 5-MeO-DMT), which IMHO let's an opioid body high glance into insignificance, it just lacks this transcendental energy bliss completely.
If you would ask me, I would say DPT opens you up to the energies of the lower planes, whereas 5-MeO-DMT opens you to the energy of the high planes. Pure bliss if you can open to it.
Otherwise these substances played a very important role in my life (had strong life changing effects): LSD and Mescaline.
But be aware that this is a very personal experienced opinion, which certainly can change in the future.
This can vary a lot between people, which is IMHO a good thing.
Edit:
Sorry I may have been a bit too harsh on DPT. Just don't listen to this judging mind... :d
blue.magic
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For me, definitely LSD. This may be biased because it was the first psychedelic I took and like first love, it was a life changing experience. Unlike with other psychedelics, the experience is very energetic for me, I feel vibrations all over my body and my senses are extremely sharp. I love how it connects me to everything around.
Then mescaline. Similar qualities to LSD, but more talkative, philosophic, more teaching, friendly and wise. I feel connected to some kind of wast "information field" and think very deeply.
2C-B only after an MDMA peak. For me, it gives the whole MDMA session a sense.
But mushrooms are probably what I have most intimate relationship with. I like the way how they teach.
My feelings of drugs as LOTR wizards:
mushrooms: Gandalf (the Grey)
DMT: Gandalf (the White)
mescaline: Elrond
LSD: Galadriel
bufotenin: Saruman
Then mescaline. Similar qualities to LSD, but more talkative, philosophic, more teaching, friendly and wise. I feel connected to some kind of wast "information field" and think very deeply.
2C-B only after an MDMA peak. For me, it gives the whole MDMA session a sense.
But mushrooms are probably what I have most intimate relationship with. I like the way how they teach.
My feelings of drugs as LOTR wizards:
mushrooms: Gandalf (the Grey)
DMT: Gandalf (the White)
mescaline: Elrond
LSD: Galadriel
bufotenin: Saruman
Aum_Shanti said:
Talk to me more about 5-MeO-DMT. I'm interested in knowing about the physical safety profile.
Is there any diet that you should do prior to inhaling?
Are certain people with pre-existing conditions more at risk than others?
What is a recommended beginner dose?
blue.magic said:
I love mushrooms plant teachers of Mother Earth Pachamama. They friends.
DMT is special as well. That first time finally breaking through after numerous tries, leaves you without words and amazement at what just happened. I remember I had stayed up all night in a beach house party with about 20 people some of them tripping on lsd, others rolling on mdma, and others smokin some chronic. I went to the roof of the house, sat down with my back to a wall, watching the sunrise, and taking hit after hit until the most unbelievable, unexplainable, ineffable happened. And at this point I can't remember what that trip was like on a visual level. I just know when it happened, I was amazed and happy and grateful, on the verge of crying because of how beautiful it was.
blue.magic
Esteemed member
ghrue84 said:
Thanks.
Yes, bufo has strong body load (at least for me) and I even felt like stopped breathing at one point while my heart raced like crazy.
It is possibly from other substances in the seeds rather than from bufotenin alone.
Maybe changa with proper herbal mix would be smoother than the snuff.
Just my own personal perspective, but I consider 5-MeO-DMT the jewel in the psychedelic crown. I've not always had this view of it, and this perspective was recently acquired following some breakthrough experiences with it earlier this year. Prior to these experiences, I considered a breakthrough DMT experience I had as the most amazing experience of my life...my breakthrough 5-MeO experiences knocked this off the top spot though, and then some! It took me a while to integrate these experiences, but I feel I've brought more back to my sober waking life from these experiences than any other psychedelic experiences I've had thus far (the ultimate acid test in my view). I experienced truly wondrous states of consciousness I would have considered utterly impossible for a human being to experience under 5-MeO, and these experiences had a profound depth that far exceeded any other psychedelic I've yet experienced. I think it is truly amazing something with 5-MeO's power exists. I would consider it an atypical psychedelic, as Aum_Shanti states.
Mushrooms I think may be my all-time favourite. The first psychedelic I ever took, and if I could only take one psychedelic for the rest of my life, it would be them. I've always connected well with the mushroom, and fine them so multifaceted...I've experienced some of my deepest states of ecstasy and blissful rapture under their influence, but I also find them consistently and reliably therapeutic, much more so than ayahuasca personally, which is much more hit and miss for me...I also find mushrooms more user friendly and easier on the body than the latter. This consistent therapeutic aspect of the mushroom again allows one to do work, the fruits of which one can bring back to their sober waking life. Being a lover of nature, I very much value the deeper more expansive connection to nature I feel under their influence. They last a good amount of time as well...I don't often have the opportunity for a 12 hour LSD trip these days...but mushrooms are much easier to integrate into my life. I also really like being able to pick or grow one's own, a cool hobby unto itself.
All psychedelics are special in their own ways of course, and I value many others greatly, and variety is the spice of life! This is just my own personal view acquired through my own experiences.
Mushrooms I think may be my all-time favourite. The first psychedelic I ever took, and if I could only take one psychedelic for the rest of my life, it would be them. I've always connected well with the mushroom, and fine them so multifaceted...I've experienced some of my deepest states of ecstasy and blissful rapture under their influence, but I also find them consistently and reliably therapeutic, much more so than ayahuasca personally, which is much more hit and miss for me...I also find mushrooms more user friendly and easier on the body than the latter. This consistent therapeutic aspect of the mushroom again allows one to do work, the fruits of which one can bring back to their sober waking life. Being a lover of nature, I very much value the deeper more expansive connection to nature I feel under their influence. They last a good amount of time as well...I don't often have the opportunity for a 12 hour LSD trip these days...but mushrooms are much easier to integrate into my life. I also really like being able to pick or grow one's own, a cool hobby unto itself.
All psychedelics are special in their own ways of course, and I value many others greatly, and variety is the spice of life! This is just my own personal view acquired through my own experiences.
downwardsfromzero
Boundary condition
I like mushrooms because they pop out of the ground for free and are ready to use. Plus they can be very, very deep.
Mescaline is also very lovely, smoother than mushrooms but much more of a waiting game overall.
LSD is great for laughing one's posterior off but lasts too long to be of much general use, as Bancopuma also states.
Mescaline is also very lovely, smoother than mushrooms but much more of a waiting game overall.
LSD is great for laughing one's posterior off but lasts too long to be of much general use, as Bancopuma also states.
1:1 changa dmt:herb with a tiny bit of caapi harmala freebase 
'Somewhat' slowed down experience, seems to be more colorful vibrance overall, allows a nice saturation in the brain of tryptamine initially, has always been very moving and powerful for me.
'Somewhat' slowed down experience, seems to be more colorful vibrance overall, allows a nice saturation in the brain of tryptamine initially, has always been very moving and powerful for me.
How about some love for Syrian Rue? These underrated little seeds are always living in the shadow of the vine, even though they have just as much fuerza and just as rich of a history of traditional usage, they are significantly moar potent, and are way moar sustainable.
They really are something of a panacea in their ability to correct illnesses, addictions, and imbalances in their myriad forms. Sure mushrooms and DMT are spectacular on their own right, but in conjunction with harmalas, they take on a whole different order of teacher/healer/ally.
Don't overlook the power of the Haoma. 8)
They really are something of a panacea in their ability to correct illnesses, addictions, and imbalances in their myriad forms. Sure mushrooms and DMT are spectacular on their own right, but in conjunction with harmalas, they take on a whole different order of teacher/healer/ally.
Don't overlook the power of the Haoma. 8)
Norsern_vind
Rising Star
Dmt, because it save my life.
Sampled hbwr and got a kick out of the positivity if forced me to have.
Hoping to upgrade to the fungi and cacti teachers, once i figure out how to.
Sampled hbwr and got a kick out of the positivity if forced me to have.
Hoping to upgrade to the fungi and cacti teachers, once i figure out how to.
5meo is a pinnacle.. but I think one must be VERY ready for it! No diet restrictions, but it is very taxing on the body (my whole body spasmed for over 10 minutes, like I was having a fit) physiologically it took me over a week to recover - I was a walking zombie with no emotions.. but it is the highest teacher I have had. I am almost ready to go back.. almost.. make sure you have a watcher who is experienced.. most people who saw my reaction would freak out big time thinking I was going to die (which I did, but not physically)
DMT and MEO are very short lived.. there is very little time to explore.. which may mean you need to go back many times.
Mushrooms are probably my favourite - I like the time frames, it gives you time to process and work through personal issues. and I like the fact it's natural like dmt
LSD I like very much as well (although the 12 hours can be a bit long haha), mushies and lsd are good teachers on a slightly more personal level - I've worked through some personal issues very well over the hours of tripping hard and it's been a very good teacher.
DMT and MEO are more spirit growth tools I find, Being connected to the one is an incredible experience.. but it is also one that would absolutely shatter the mind of someone unprepared.. I would consider other things initially unless you are very experienced.
I am looking forward to trying ayahuasca shortly.. I think the extended DMT experience will be much more of a useful tool for me to work through towards my path to the spirit world.
It really depends what you are looking for
DMT and MEO are very short lived.. there is very little time to explore.. which may mean you need to go back many times.
Mushrooms are probably my favourite - I like the time frames, it gives you time to process and work through personal issues. and I like the fact it's natural like dmt
LSD I like very much as well (although the 12 hours can be a bit long haha), mushies and lsd are good teachers on a slightly more personal level - I've worked through some personal issues very well over the hours of tripping hard and it's been a very good teacher.
DMT and MEO are more spirit growth tools I find, Being connected to the one is an incredible experience.. but it is also one that would absolutely shatter the mind of someone unprepared.. I would consider other things initially unless you are very experienced.
I am looking forward to trying ayahuasca shortly.. I think the extended DMT experience will be much more of a useful tool for me to work through towards my path to the spirit world.
It really depends what you are looking for
one thing I want to add about 5Meo.. it is EXTREMELY STRONG! if you are going to use it MAKE SURE you have 0.00x scales! that are accurate! DMT is MUCH more forgiving with dose.. (not saying 100mg wont screw you haah..) but 5meo the smallest difference in amount and smoking technique can make a huge difference.. tread with extreme caution!
5mg difference can literally screw you over.. you must be very very careful with dose!!!
5mg difference can literally screw you over.. you must be very very careful with dose!!!
For the last year or so, mescaline, with 2c-b a close second and 2c-c a curious third.
The reason(s) is/are that they are all easy to handle, warm, heart-opening, gentle, insightful, friendly.
And at the moment this is, for the most part, the sort of (psychedelic) experience I'm going for.
The reason(s) is/are that they are all easy to handle, warm, heart-opening, gentle, insightful, friendly.
And at the moment this is, for the most part, the sort of (psychedelic) experience I'm going for.
For me it is edible ganja - in conjunction with rigorous yoga and meditation 
This has the hallmarks of a good psychedelic experience, particular the ego dissolution and "entity" contact. It is good practice for letting go.
Followed closely by salvia and mushrooms
This has the hallmarks of a good psychedelic experience, particular the ego dissolution and "entity" contact. It is good practice for letting go. Followed closely by salvia and mushrooms
I've tried LSD 4 times, 2C-T-2 once, and DMT once. Of these, 2C-T-2 was my favorite. It lacked the severe nausea I have had with 3 of my LSD experiences, and the jaw tension I have had with all of my LSD experiences. It was also very introspective, which I liked, though it was not the most visual. I found it to be very therapeutic. I will say that it lacked any sort of euphoria, but I took a low dose, so that may be why.
DMT... was short. One minute I was trying to figure out if anything was happening, then suddenly everything was covered in geometric shapes. Five minutes later it was over. I cannot really say whether I liked it more than 2C-T-2 or not. I look forward to trying it again. It is certainly an interesting substance.
LSD has a lot of unpleasant side effects for me, as I said. I would like to add, though, that my third LSD trip was probably the most spiritually significant event of my life. So even though it is my least favorite of what I've tried, it is special to me.
Obviously, I'm far from experienced, but I thought I'd throw in my opinion anyways.
DMT... was short. One minute I was trying to figure out if anything was happening, then suddenly everything was covered in geometric shapes. Five minutes later it was over. I cannot really say whether I liked it more than 2C-T-2 or not. I look forward to trying it again. It is certainly an interesting substance.
LSD has a lot of unpleasant side effects for me, as I said. I would like to add, though, that my third LSD trip was probably the most spiritually significant event of my life. So even though it is my least favorite of what I've tried, it is special to me.
Obviously, I'm far from experienced, but I thought I'd throw in my opinion anyways.
Sabnock1990
Be Your Own Shaman
dreamer042 said:
Agreed
This is, of course, a cliche answer considering that we're on the DMT-Nexus, but I just can't imagine a more beautiful, explanation-defying experience than my first DMT breakthrough (I'm talking n,n-DMT, I haven't worked up to 5-meO yet :roll: ). I have ADHD and anxiety, so a.) my thoughts run at a million miles a minute and b.) I have a really hard time letting go of control over them. Meditation is helping for sure, but often I still find that even when I really want to let go, on trips where I'm still somewhat connected to reality and sense of self (such as low-moderate dose LSD and mushroom trips) I just can't become an observer of my thoughts/the experiences, which causes a lot of anxiety during the trips and I don't feel like I always get what I was supposed to get out of the experience, because I was too busy trying to make it go my way. With DMT, I find it very easy to completely lose contact with my sober self and let myself really experience what I'm supposed to experience. You really don't have a choice but to totally surrender to it.
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