What others think

[WEM]

What I am curious to know, is of all of you travels out there, how well known outside of this nexus is it known that you've experienced DMT?

See I live in a setting where I feel like if it were known to others what I wish to try (then after trying dmt, what I have done), that I would be outcasted for not 'following the norm' and what have you. There is a very few of my trusting friends that I can share this knowledge with, but outside of that, I feel like I would need to keep it a secret from practically every, even my parents and pretty much the rest of my family.

Is there anyone else out there who has a similar situation where there's only a few trusting friends know of their travels, or are there some of you out there whom have told all their friends and/or family about their experiences?

The reason I ask is because the majority of the population has no clue what dmt is, let alone heard of it, so if I were to tell them, they would see it as 'just another drug' and categorize it with cocaine, heroin, weed and the like. And yet there's people out there like Joe Rogan who's publicly announced how he's traveled the realm of dmt multiple times, and has had minimal negative repercussions that I know about.

 

[۩]

Hey WEM,

This is something you really need to be careful about and meditate on before making any decisions. This, in essence, is the politics of psychedelic use and it varies from person to person.

I for some reason was unable to hold myself back, I have told everyone everything, basically. I do not have a career or a social status to where this would be problematic in any way, really. The funny thing is, my parents never really understood why I loved psychedelics so much until they saw how much I improved physically/mentally after using Iboga and describing my experience to them, it really blew them away- I couldn't help it. I feel such a tremendous desire to share these things, one reason I am always here posting my thoughts and stuff. With that said, I have seen this back fire for a lot of people which is really kind of sad!

My advice would be to visualize scenarios. A world where you told no one and lived with it alone inside your head. A world where you told only your trusted friends, and even then they could open their mouths to others. There are possibilities and factors. And then there is the world of being totally open and honest, and the world where you mix all of these things into one tactical thing. Life is so freakin' weird...

 

[Purges]

Some of my friends.

 

[Sky Motion]

Some of my friends.

Yup.

 

[Dethrone]

I have told a few people,I am not worried what others think.But I have stopped telling people because most really dont understand or know what dmt is.

 

[Felnik]

I have a very small group of people that are aware of this stuff and my interest in it. Even people that consider themselves to be somewhat ratical thinkers are clueless to the world of Dmt.
I will not educate them either .

Be very selective in who you tell anything . Most people are better off not knowing anything about this.

I used to talk too much about it , I have since ceased all discussion about it accept for 3 people .

Loose lips sink ships

 

[d*l*b]

I live in quite a liberal area and use of psychedelics is common here and has been since the 60s/70s. It has been well known that I am more than a little bit interested in them for close to 20 years now.

When I was school age it seemed that most of the people in the estate I was on got interested in acid, from the very straight to the “alternative” types. Despite the fact that psychedelic use was common at this time due to my slightly greater interest in that game I was treated differently by a lot of people who felt people who ate a lot of acid were mad. The last time I saw the people I used to hang around with in a large group at a local festival I could definitely see that attitude was still there, but I guess this was maybe 7 or 8 years ago so maybe this has passed now.

Going to college, getting involved with the party scene and moving into the city has changed a lot of the attitude around me. People around me the last 18 or so years are a lot more liberal and open. DMT could be thought of as reasonably common here, I saw it around and about for at least a decade prior to trying it. I have found that a fair few people are maybe a little wary of some of the stuff that comes out of it, but it doesn’t affect my place within the scene I think.

Only just now have I met people who are on the level and are maybe something close to impossible to freak out if I talk about some of my experiences.

All in all my openness about my lifestyle hasn’t really made a huge difference in the way I deal with those around me, and any adverse bits are an irrelevancy to me. The only issue I see is the legal side of it, hopefully the people in scene I am in are intelligent enough to keep their mouths shut in the right places and secondarily I hope we aren’t infiltrated by those that seek to put us into concrete boxes for extended periods of time.

 

[jamie]

My entire immediate family knows that I am deep into this stuff, as do all of my friends. I dont really have any friends though who would be against any of this or have not been there themselves. I might know alot of people, but I am mostly not a super socially outgoing person by a long shot and am completely contempt not really talking to anyone other than minxx for days..I dont have any problems or fears about telling people what I do though, personally I could not care less what people think about it at this point unless they are holding a badge.

I have been judged, I am sure many of us have. A friends gf once tried to tell me I was some kind of escapist..well, I just pointed out that I mostly agreed with her. I would love to escape from the prison cell of this society and the mental paradigm that we are collectivly brainwashed into believing throughout childhood. Sure, my use of psychedelics has been a huge part of my mental deconditioning that is continuing to move me farther away from the mental confines of that paradigm.

People can believe whatever they want, I just dont have the time or energy to put on some show for them pretending to be someone else. The only people I would care enough to hide this from is law enforcement and possibly employers.

 

[WEM]

People can believe whatever they want, I just dont have the time or energy to put on some show for them pretending to be someone else. The only people I would care enough to hide this from is law enforcement and possibly employers.

I couldn't agree more, although I don't think I would be able to tell my immediate family. Perhaps my one uncle who I know is at least somewhat into psychedelics (doubt he's heard of this), and that's a maybe. There's also my own aunt who I could tell her practically anything without any worry of her telling anyone... it's been almost too long since I've talked to her... I'm probably gonna talk to her now that I'm thinking about her (not about dmt at this point).

All in all everyone's advice and info is pretty much what I thought I would hear.

 

[Uno]

I only tell people that I believe are open-minded and mature enough to not judge me, as well as understand that DMT is more than just another drug. It also helps if they are not a blabbermouth. I haven't told one of my best friends simply because I know he talks to his co-workers about me. I don't want people that have never even met me to know that I smoke DMT.

 

[scudge]

I never mention it, unless my gut tells me otherwise, which 100% of the time my gut tells me not to mention my private time activities. I don't really see a point in letting that information out there, besides the obvious reasons. Even than I'm kind of like Gollum from Lord of the Rings with my stuff.

 

[WEM]

That is definitely something to think about, I will agree, some of my friends are quite... how do I say... entrapped into the lies about psychedelics and such (and could potentially judge me, and maybe report, however unlikely). I even have a friend who said yesterday that he was going to 'deactivate' his Facebook so he doesn't have to deal with reading all the 4/20 posts people put up... so he for sure will not know about my plans to travel the realm that is dmt. I actually don't have that many friends that aren't considered close friends, considering my group is more than likely less than ten people. I don't particularly like to throw the word 'friend' around likely, most of the people I know that I see (who are my friends' friends) are only acquaintances, and I don't ever plan on telling them unless I really get to know them more.

See for most of the people I know, I haven't told them anything, but because of my nature, they assume that I have experimented. I mean, for one, all throughout high school I was known as the stoner because of my very laid back approach to things and my unique mannerisms. But to tell you the truth: I NEVER smoked weed or did any drugs until AFTER I graduated high school.

 

[anrchy]

This is kind of alien to me. I don't have friends that I can't be me 100%. What kind of person could you call a friend if you can't be you around them? I don't really understand your situation.

I don't cross into the friend zone with people that can't accept my lifestyle. Most of my friends have done some kind of drug. I can tell my dad anything. I can tell my mom anything but I pick and choose what things I talk to her about. I told her about past mushrooms experiences at one point and she told me a story where she went to an Elton John concert on mushrooms. I was slightly surprised she was telling me cause she is fairly straight laced now. I have friends that don't do anything but they would never judge me for anything unless I was making serious mistakes. It's pretty known how I research everything to make myself more knowledgeable before doing.

 

[Bill Cipher]

I tell very few people. The closest people in my life know nothing at all about it. I share about it here, and with the one friend I initially set out down this road with. That's enough for me, but there are no set rules. You'll figure out what's comfortable for you.

 

[ewok]

Sad times indeed when its required to keep something so amazingly astounding under wraps, I don't tell people about my dmt use. Only because of the law don't care what others think just don't want a visit from the injustice department.

 

[3rdI]

my closest friends know and have smoalked with me, and at the beginnig of my interaction with DMT i would have told the whole world if it would have listened, but as my travels have gotten deeper it has left me in a situation where know one understands what im talking about and i know im gonna be inline for "The Look" if i try to explain my view point on these things, so now i dont tell anyone anything, well except for you good people.

 

[Purges]

There are a couple of people I wish I hadn't told in the early days (you know getting a bit loose tongued at a party, that kind of thing) - now when they mention it I just divert the conversation.

 

[PrimalWisdom]

Nearly everyone who knows me knows that I a dabble in the entheogens and psychedelics. My parents only know about my entheo use - I haven't told them about LSD, DMT etc... but I suspect they know. I have a t-shirt with a Hoffmanm blotter print on the front

I don't tell people I extract DMT and other such things for obvious reasons, but most people know I use them. Even my old boss knew. If people judge me because of it then that's their issue not mine.

Peace

 

[WarriorPriest]

I really admire those who can be so open about these things. One day maybe...

I have a very close circle of friends who are as interested and motivated as I am in exploring, but outside of us, we've told no one.

I do, however leave clues in conversation occasionally. Terence McKenna quotes, Alan Watts book references, etc. Every now and again someone picks up on them, and the conversation turns into "Oh, yeah, when i was younger, I used to dabble..." etc. One day, I bet I'll meet someone who seems to be on the wavelength, and may open up.

I guess that's the dream, right? That one day we can build a society that allows that type of freedom. Of expression, of self-exploration, etc.

One day.

WP

 

[WEM]

Every one of you has great advice, I'll have to take the advice and put it to context with my situation but that shouldn't be too hard

WarriorPriest: I too, hope for a day where society allows for freedom of exploration without worry of punishment, and some of my closest friends from college I got to really know them after they did left clues in the conversation, I picked right up on it and we were able to open up about it, he's the more experienced (still unsure if he's tried dmt), but I can easily be open with him since then.

I will be careful with who I tell though, that much I do know