What’s the difference?

[Plotty]

I would be happy to, but pls inform me of yours if you could? I realise it would work, I should not be so limited in my assumptions.

In terms of my approach, as mentioned the key requirement is to be able to inhale enough in one breath, even for someone trying it for the first time. To achieve this I use a flower or leaf which burns at super low temperature. I grind this up to an extremely fine powder, like dust (generally I use the vine). I go old school and just use a bong, with a fairly long pipe to ensure the inhale is not hot etc. So using a fairly generous cone piece I test how much a can pack into it. With that super fine powder it is not going to get stuck, so you can put a lot of pressure on it to fill. Empty this amt back out and weigh it, this becomes a standard unit, one cone. Once you have this you need to gauge how strong the DMT is. If the extract is reasonable you kinda want to be able to inhale 100mg, so assuming this is the case I actually want 200mg in that come. If I had a g for instance I would put 5 comes worth of powder in a bowl and dissolve the DMT in ethanol, then mix through and let ethanol evaporate. You now have a uniform mix which is distributed properly through the leaf matter. When you pack the cone there is 200mg available, so what happens in practice is that as soon as the cherry forms there is the bulk of it “vaped” from the heat. It happens super fast. This means that even those people who want to pull out early (as everyone does when it comes to the proper crunch), it is already way too late.

I have seen a million different methods, everyone has a personalised angle. From my observations very very few ever actually work

I just assume it is a case of people ensuring it doesn’t work, and then all pretending it does as the bar is so low…just to be frank

(side note - I firmly believe one should not facilitate DMT for someone unless they have a extremely well consulted and active number of entities they can draw on to assist).

 

[Voidmatrix]

If you use a method other than combustion you can go the same distance on a third of the amount

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[Plotty]

You're inhaling 100mg at a time? Why such a large dose?

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There is no such thing as a “large dose” - there is sufficient, or insufficient. DMT is a potent dissociative, as soon as you inhale enough you stop, not by choice. If you stopped consciously, your method didn’t work

If you use a method other than combustion you can go the same distance on a third of the amount

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It’s not a case of what I can get away with, it’s a case of ensuring it works. I can recycle what was left, if any. I am not looking to save $’s, or do more trips which are shallow, they are all with merit, but if serious one wants proper break through

It’s not a case of what I can get away with, it’s a case of ensuring it works. I can recycle what was left, if any. I am not looking to save $’s, or do more trips which are shallow, they are all with merit, but if serious one wants proper break through

I have tried many methods thoroughly. My view is generated from comprehensive experiments of any viable option accessible. I have tried them all

I have tried many methods thoroughly. My view is generated from comprehensive experiments of any viable option accessible. I have tried them all

And when facilitating for someone, I need it to work, without fail. No token token

DMT went from obscurity to popular culture in the underground outdoor music scene in my neck of the woods, so many alternative approaches are seen, tried, optimised etc. My recommendation is down to the fact that it is the only way I am aware of to ensure results

 

[Nydex]

but if serious one wants proper break through

So anyone that chooses not to work with breakthrough doses of DMT is not serious about it? You're working off of a whole lot of presumptions and bizarre ideas. Perhaps you should re-evaluate your relationship with psychedelics?

 

[Plotty]

I appreciate the chat.

Love

 

[Plotty]

So anyone that chooses not to work with breakthrough doses of DMT is not serious about it? You're working off of a whole lot of presumptions and bizarre ideas. Perhaps you should re-evaluate your relationship with psychedelics?

No there is merit in smaller doses, and a plethora of experiences. I do not intend to detract from that, but ultimately, the break through is what DMT is at its core. I saw it as my duty to communicate with the entities and the understanding they availed, and to be able to replicate that access for others.

 

[Nydex]

But surely the entities which you communicate with must have helped you realize that none of us really understand what DMT is, right? I'm not saying we have no idea, but I cannot help but raise an eyebrow at anyone that claims they fully and entirely understand what DMT is all about.

 

[Plotty]

DMT hides in plain site, with astounding degrees of knowledge accessible to those brave enough and well prepared. It’s knowledge humility needs, and if the teams of dedicated travelers just want to take the cruise ship version who does that leave? I don’t expect everyone to dedicate themselves, but one can’t accumulate the knowledge and the abilities required without that first break through. It stands available, and the novelty awaits.

But surely the entities which you communicate with must have helped you realize that none of us really understand what DMT is, right? I'm not saying we have no idea, but I cannot help but raise an eyebrow at anyone that claims they fully and entirely understand what DMT is all about.

It doesn’t matter what it is, it matters what it avails. It is irrelevant what it is

It doesn’t matter what it is, it matters what it avails. It is irrelevant what it is

I spent a decade trying to learn from entities, specifically understand how interconnected but dissociated dimensional spaces relate, and how to navigate them etc. A human is like a toddler in that realm however, you can only learn so much, even at millions of times normal processing ability when there

 

[Voidmatrix]

Dude...

I'm done being nice. This ain't Reddit. Have some self-awareness and understand that you're speaking anecdotally or be gone. Last chance.

There is no such thing as a “large dose” - there is sufficient, or insufficient. DMT is a potent dissociative, as soon as you inhale enough you stop, not by choice. If you stopped consciously, your method didn’t work

If you black out and don't remember then that was a large dose.

Also, if someone can go the same distance on a third of the amount then why use more than that.

Your views are your own. People can use DMT however they want. I'm not sure why YOU get to decide what the "point" of DMT is.

You have a way that works for you, others have ways that work for them. You need to grasp that. You're new here. Get to know the place before you decide that you want to act like an authority. You're not an authority.

DMT is the most epic puzzle and you're out here trying to make definite claims.

Get grounded and go touch some grass because you're steeping yourself in your own delusions presently.

And stop spamming this thread! Say what you need to say in as few goes as possible.

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[Plotty]

Even to use DMT regularly one should have an entity which has allied with them. It’s kinda a prerequisite in my eyes. Not hard to achieve

They will assist with a variety of things. The intro is often a light beam through your solar plexus. I suggest maybe 70% of people can achieve this first trip ever, if the person who facilitated is legitimately positioned and has the necessary intent, understanding, and patience to find the right time for that person

That entity becomes like an alliance, but it is a two way street. You have responsibilities as do they, and one can fall short of expectations etc. Biological form is a rarely encountered trait in hyperspace, very retro, so to speak. There is often a trade. Perhaps I can elaborate at a later date if ever of relevance/interest.

Peace x

 

[Plotty]

Dude...

I'm done being nice. This ain't Reddit. Have some self-awareness and understand that you're speaking anecdotally or be gone. Last chance.


If you black out and don't remember then that was a large dose.

Also, if someone can go the same distance on a third of the amount then why use more than that.

Your views are your own. People can use DMT however they want. I'm not sure why YOU get to decide what the "point" of DMT is.

You have a way that works for you, others have ways that work for them. You need to grasp that. You're new here. Get to know the place before you decide that you want to act like an authority. You're not an authority.

DMT is the most epic puzzle and you're out here trying to make definite claims.

Get grounded and go touch some grass because you're steeping yourself in your own delusions presently.

And stop spamming this thread! Say what you need to say in as few goes as possible.

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It is not intended to cause offence.

An equivalent claim would be that the Mushroom wants to speak, and eloquently details its past and its knowledge. Now if I communicate that to you are you also to become offended and say I am just making a claim?

Reality is what it is. I am fine to leave the posts, the thread, and the site.

I was merely sharing my knowledge Sir.

 

[Nydex]

I was merely sharing my knowledge Sir.

Sharing your knowledge is wonderful and we welcome it here. But when said knowledge touches on highly subjective notions and is presented as indisputable fact, then we have a communication issue. This is why Void pointed you to looking around the website you are on and seeing the nature and tone of discussions that are held within.

We love sharing knowledge. We don't like putting chains on it and acting like anything beyond those chains is foolish to even consider.

 

[Voidmatrix]

I'm not offended. I'm annoyed.

Mushrooms "speak" to some, others have no experience like that. You also sound like you're parroting Terence McKenna. So instead of framing that the mushroom speaks and talks about it's origins as a fact, frame it as part of your own experience. In a sense, it is just a claim.

You're sharing your perspectives. You shared information. You have not share knowledge.

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[Plotty]

It is not intended to cause offence.

An equivalent claim would be that the Mushroom wants to speak, and eloquently details its past and its knowledge. Now if I communicate that to you are you also to become offended and say I am just making a claim?

Reality is what it is. I am fine to leave the posts, the thread, and the site.

I was merely sharing my knowledge Sir.

I shall leave you all to it.

I do not intend seem like I am judging, more that you don’t know what you are missing, and the entities can’t wait for you to find them.

I apologise for specific, but the entities are specific. It is there opinion I represent.

 

[Plotty]

Sharing your knowledge is wonderful and we welcome it here. But when said knowledge touches on highly subjective notions and is presented as indisputable fact, then we have a communication issue. This is why Void pointed you to looking around the website you are on and seeing the nature and tone of discussions that are held within.

We love sharing knowledge. We don't like putting chains on it and acting like anything beyond those chains is foolish to even consider.

This is the last msg you will see from me Nydex.

I popped in today, for the first time, and for the last.

travel in style.

 

[Plotty]

I'm not offended. I'm annoyed.

Mushrooms "speak" to some, others have no experience like that. You also sound like you're parroting Terence McKenna. So instead of framing that the mushroom speaks and talks about it's origins as a fact, frame it as part of your own experience. In a sense, it is just a claim.

You're sharing your perspectives. You shared information. You have not share knowledge.

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You do not understand.

 

[Plotty]

True experience removes opinion, and interpretation, and all who achieve it view the broader experience without debate or personalised ownership.

The fact you see it is a competitive battle, and that I claim boldly somehow just on behalf of myself highlights a sad state of affairs. I just assumed you would be into psychedelics, it is my mistake. Perhaps you are more into philosophy, and philosophical debate.

 

[Plotty]

True experience removes opinion, and interpretation, and all who achieve it view the broader experience without debate or personalised ownership.

The fact you see it is a competitive battle, and that I claim boldly somehow just on behalf of myself highlights a sad state of affairs. I just assumed you would be into psychedelics, it is my mistake. Perhaps you are more into philosophy, and philosophical debate.

The cultures who have used DMT for eons have no need to debate, or interpret. It becomes uniform, reality is what it is.

 

[Plotty]

Anyhow. Over and out.

Smooth travels hey

 

[Voidmatrix]

True experience removes opinion, and interpretation, and all who achieve it view the broader experience without debate or personalised ownership.

The fact you see it is a competitive battle, and that I claim boldly somehow just on behalf of myself highlights a sad state of affairs. I just assumed you would be into psychedelics, it is my mistake. Perhaps you are more into philosophy, and philosophical debate.

That's your opinion.

Its not a battle. I like accurate and mindful and thoughtful dialog. Something you haven't shown.

I'm into psychedelics as much as I am into philosophy. I'm the resident philosopher.

I like accuracy and veracity. I tend to find debate pointless.

Bye.

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