when is something you eat a food, a medicine or a "dietary suppliment"

[anonenium]

hello

i have been having this problem for a while.

this is mostly concerned with the legal perspective and the only reason i ask here is because i have bashed my head on this off and on for a year now and even hired a few people to find out about this, from production and sales to transport and have not gotten anything consistent for an answer.

if you were to add a nootropic (like piracetam) to a food item and them package it and sell it, what would it be?

obvious all the racetams are medicines, so this is a bit of a stumbling block, mindilusion suggest hiring a biogenticist and making racetam fortified coffee, but short of making a special breed of plant and half a billion in research, does anyone know of any situations where a synthetic chemical that has medicinal qualities was put inside a food and the entire packaged good was treated as a food or a "dietary suppliment" rather than having to need a half meter long attributes sheet?

if anyone can help, thank you.

 

[cyb]

What's to stop someone binging on the food and potentially 'overdosing' on the nootropic?

40mg of noopept was too much for me.

Just a first thought...

 

[Vodsel]

Regarding the thread topic, it's all about definitions really, but I'm remembering what Galen said in II century AD - the body can be maintained with food or altered by a pharmakon. Medicine and drug were the same thing. Body beats food, medicine beats body.

So medicines are to be used to cure an ailment (physical or mental) and food could be defined as a substance that keeps the body functioning normally, but what does "normally" mean here? Does normality imply homeostasis, balance, just maintenance? Our body develops, and that development could aim further than making bigger bones and muscles and replace dead tissue. Development might aim for the most efficient use of our assets, and then altering or enhancing our functions would be considered normal. So dietary supplements, and even medicines, could be included in the category of food.

I would say everything depends on dosage.

 

[TOXSIN]

If you're looking for legal side of things definitely seek a attorneys help you can use a google search to find free websites with experienced and newer students of law, who will help you out!

But best suggestion again I'm not an attorney and am not giving legal advise, simply look up each individual items scheduling or analogue situation make sure extract or preparation for consumption is noted or noted not for human consumption in some cases. Also give info on the substance if you're planning on selling do not skip steps as a word of advice a lot of people buy things on a whim without much research don't specifically tell them how to use something to get "high" but warn of "dangers" inconspicuously like "Could cause nausea, dizziness, confusion, hallucinations(maybe not?) etc you get the point", this can easily be added to a label of whatever you are providing.

Just my opinion based on what I read and understood of your question hope this helps!

EDIT: Also I would suggest a symptom sheet and alleviation of unwanted symptom idea if the supplements and things are good to sell legally but may have negative side effects.

 

[anonenium]

well im going to keep hunting oh this

the idea would only be to put in 5 or 10mg of noopept that way a person could down a half dozen with nothing other than a full dose hitting them.

but its still something i wish i had an easy way to do.

never the less thank you everone for your advise