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I want to know if anyone else has had similar experience as to the ones I have and if so, how to change that. Please LMK if this should be posted in a different category.
As a fairly experienced psychonaught I decided I would step it up and play this game but I have not been having a good time.
First time I tried I spent a few weeks reading trip reports on erowid, took a week off of everything else, fasted for a day, meditated beforehand and went in full steam, too much steam. I got about 4 hits and pretty promptly blacked out. Coming to around 5 minutes later I only remember the come up but after that last hit I don't remember anything. My body felt too hot and my lungs hurt I was mentally rung like a bell though and had to go for a long walk to feel a little better. About 6 months later I gave it another try but this time went for only 2 hits. This second time I had a whole body vibration thing going on but it was not a pleasant feeling. I got to the part where everything looks cartoonish and toy like but otherwise the same, no OEV other than things looking not normal.
About another 6 months later I tried here and there to take 1 hit on the vape pen after eating tabs or boomers as I was told by a trusted source that this was a fun time. In most these cases I still ended up feeling like my body was vibrating in a not at all pleasant way.
Now it's been about a year and a half since the first time and I decided I would try a bit harder again. I took some boomers, about 6 gees as I usually don't feel like I am where i want to be on anything less than an either and even then most the time it doesn't do it for me. My plan was to hit the pen later in the night. Less than an hour into the trip I had the strong feeling that I was already high on the spice; despite not having done the spice yet I recognized the similar like trip, this lasted 5 minutes of so and then I was smacked with what I can only describe as a slowing field. My whole body hurt, all over and I have a very strong feeling that I needed to lie down. It was quite a struggle to finish what I was doing and make it to a safe place where I could sit down at all, I lied down and my brain slipped into a colorful pattern of square/triangular like shapes seemingly superimposed on a waving surface where I zoomed in on the connection between 2 of these shapes and saw they were not attached so I somehow willed the connection and had the idea I was fixing something. A few minutes later I was up and running and feeling good but I felt like I had been hit by some field that changed my body's vibration speed out of sync with everything else and it was very unpleasant. I did end up later that evening trying to hit the pen and got 1.5 hits in, then felt way too hot like I was overheating, felt like I was going to throw up and had to run around like a fool for a few minutes to clam myself.
Then a few weeks after that I decided I wanted to try this again. I don't know why I keep wanting to try this. I have never been present at any level past the everything-is-toy-like stage, never seen any amazing OEV and only had strange but clearly spice flavored CEVs. But I did. This time I ate 5gees of boomers and a small amount of jungle spice after eating some caapi extract (75mg maybe, which it turns out seems to be way too little). I laid there in the dark for a while shaking and being in some sort of pain while my mind went wild. There were a few times when I was in strong discomfort but I talked to the whoknows and asked if it had to be painful and maybe could we not? and after making the request to stop the pain my body didn't hurt anymore.
After a few hours I went for the pen after meditating and lighting some incense and grabbing my spiritual-ground-feather. This time I did get about 1.5 hits in although not very good ones. I did in this case go for a voyage but as soon as it was over there was no memory of it at all. I spent the next 20 minutes vocalizing every noise I think is possible to make and mostly repeating 'holy fukcing shit' again and again as my mind reeled from the experience. Some minutes later I went for a change of scenery and I finally felt what others had oftern described. I felt awesome, great, amazing, my whole body was on fire with glee and ecstasy feelings for a few minutes.
Soooo here is why I am making this post. I lately tried to do something similar but without the booms. MAOI in, then later some jungle spice. An hour later nothing, some very light CEV but nothing to write about on it's own. For the last few years I have had a fair amout of 'brain zaps' despite never having taken any medication that might be related to them, though I did suffer a TBI about 7 years ago from causes unknown. While meditating here I had a few low grade brain zaps, nothing too painful like they used to be but it's still a unsettleing and unhapy thing. So I tried to redose and waited antoher hour. still nothiing so did it again. This was a bit of offbrand JS which was not professionally extracted mixed with a small amout of yellow power concentrate, I would have thought it would be enough but it was not, I figiured I had aleady taken 150mg harmine and ~200mg ott in and that it might be a time for the pen and I was wrong.
I went for the pen, loaded here with 45mg yellow concentrate and manged to get one good hit in which I held in a long as I could. As soon as I lied down it was like I was hit by a stun phaser from startrek or something. My whole body wreathed is pain, like a stun net had been cast on me. Visually I could see 2 things. 1 is what might be described as dots, with some embled or sign in them, equadistance from eachother like nodes in a net. It encompassed my whole visual field and I could hardly concentrate on anything but this and the pain. Concurrent to this it was like I was looking at 2 or 3 spice robots or something and they had what I can only say seemed like a chalkboard of some sort. I had the impression they were trying to see if I could undertand what they wanted me to look at but I was overcome with the pain throughout my entire body, some static field pressed down into the sufficed through me that caused my body to vibrate in a very unpleasent way. I apoligzed for not being able to understand them and quickly they saw my connection time was up and voided themselves, shortly after I regained my ability to control myself and spent about an hour or 2 shaking with twitchy fidgeting movements.
I was straight up not having a good time at all with this last hit and I don't know why.
So here we are. Had anyone else had anything similar happen to them? If so were you able to move past it? Any insight is welcome as I'd really like to have experiences like most others seem to have but I really doin't like this pain vibration thing that keeps happening and I really and especially did not enjoy this stunnet or whatever that I got stuck in this last time.
Thanks for reading.
I want to know if anyone else has had similar experience as to the ones I have and if so, how to change that. Please LMK if this should be posted in a different category.
As a fairly experienced psychonaught I decided I would step it up and play this game but I have not been having a good time.
First time I tried I spent a few weeks reading trip reports on erowid, took a week off of everything else, fasted for a day, meditated beforehand and went in full steam, too much steam. I got about 4 hits and pretty promptly blacked out. Coming to around 5 minutes later I only remember the come up but after that last hit I don't remember anything. My body felt too hot and my lungs hurt I was mentally rung like a bell though and had to go for a long walk to feel a little better. About 6 months later I gave it another try but this time went for only 2 hits. This second time I had a whole body vibration thing going on but it was not a pleasant feeling. I got to the part where everything looks cartoonish and toy like but otherwise the same, no OEV other than things looking not normal.
About another 6 months later I tried here and there to take 1 hit on the vape pen after eating tabs or boomers as I was told by a trusted source that this was a fun time. In most these cases I still ended up feeling like my body was vibrating in a not at all pleasant way.
Now it's been about a year and a half since the first time and I decided I would try a bit harder again. I took some boomers, about 6 gees as I usually don't feel like I am where i want to be on anything less than an either and even then most the time it doesn't do it for me. My plan was to hit the pen later in the night. Less than an hour into the trip I had the strong feeling that I was already high on the spice; despite not having done the spice yet I recognized the similar like trip, this lasted 5 minutes of so and then I was smacked with what I can only describe as a slowing field. My whole body hurt, all over and I have a very strong feeling that I needed to lie down. It was quite a struggle to finish what I was doing and make it to a safe place where I could sit down at all, I lied down and my brain slipped into a colorful pattern of square/triangular like shapes seemingly superimposed on a waving surface where I zoomed in on the connection between 2 of these shapes and saw they were not attached so I somehow willed the connection and had the idea I was fixing something. A few minutes later I was up and running and feeling good but I felt like I had been hit by some field that changed my body's vibration speed out of sync with everything else and it was very unpleasant. I did end up later that evening trying to hit the pen and got 1.5 hits in, then felt way too hot like I was overheating, felt like I was going to throw up and had to run around like a fool for a few minutes to clam myself.
Then a few weeks after that I decided I wanted to try this again. I don't know why I keep wanting to try this. I have never been present at any level past the everything-is-toy-like stage, never seen any amazing OEV and only had strange but clearly spice flavored CEVs. But I did. This time I ate 5gees of boomers and a small amount of jungle spice after eating some caapi extract (75mg maybe, which it turns out seems to be way too little). I laid there in the dark for a while shaking and being in some sort of pain while my mind went wild. There were a few times when I was in strong discomfort but I talked to the whoknows and asked if it had to be painful and maybe could we not? and after making the request to stop the pain my body didn't hurt anymore.
After a few hours I went for the pen after meditating and lighting some incense and grabbing my spiritual-ground-feather. This time I did get about 1.5 hits in although not very good ones. I did in this case go for a voyage but as soon as it was over there was no memory of it at all. I spent the next 20 minutes vocalizing every noise I think is possible to make and mostly repeating 'holy fukcing shit' again and again as my mind reeled from the experience. Some minutes later I went for a change of scenery and I finally felt what others had oftern described. I felt awesome, great, amazing, my whole body was on fire with glee and ecstasy feelings for a few minutes.
Soooo here is why I am making this post. I lately tried to do something similar but without the booms. MAOI in, then later some jungle spice. An hour later nothing, some very light CEV but nothing to write about on it's own. For the last few years I have had a fair amout of 'brain zaps' despite never having taken any medication that might be related to them, though I did suffer a TBI about 7 years ago from causes unknown. While meditating here I had a few low grade brain zaps, nothing too painful like they used to be but it's still a unsettleing and unhapy thing. So I tried to redose and waited antoher hour. still nothiing so did it again. This was a bit of offbrand JS which was not professionally extracted mixed with a small amout of yellow power concentrate, I would have thought it would be enough but it was not, I figiured I had aleady taken 150mg harmine and ~200mg ott in and that it might be a time for the pen and I was wrong.
I went for the pen, loaded here with 45mg yellow concentrate and manged to get one good hit in which I held in a long as I could. As soon as I lied down it was like I was hit by a stun phaser from startrek or something. My whole body wreathed is pain, like a stun net had been cast on me. Visually I could see 2 things. 1 is what might be described as dots, with some embled or sign in them, equadistance from eachother like nodes in a net. It encompassed my whole visual field and I could hardly concentrate on anything but this and the pain. Concurrent to this it was like I was looking at 2 or 3 spice robots or something and they had what I can only say seemed like a chalkboard of some sort. I had the impression they were trying to see if I could undertand what they wanted me to look at but I was overcome with the pain throughout my entire body, some static field pressed down into the sufficed through me that caused my body to vibrate in a very unpleasent way. I apoligzed for not being able to understand them and quickly they saw my connection time was up and voided themselves, shortly after I regained my ability to control myself and spent about an hour or 2 shaking with twitchy fidgeting movements.
I was straight up not having a good time at all with this last hit and I don't know why.
So here we are. Had anyone else had anything similar happen to them? If so were you able to move past it? Any insight is welcome as I'd really like to have experiences like most others seem to have but I really doin't like this pain vibration thing that keeps happening and I really and especially did not enjoy this stunnet or whatever that I got stuck in this last time.
Thanks for reading.
