WOW Deepest trip yet...

[superturkey]

So I just come out of my most intense trip ever.
Smoked one toke of changa 1:1:1 then almost immediately took 45mg DMT phosphate.

This was my first time introducing an MAOI with a full dose trip. What a rollercoaster of highs and lows.

The most detailed and complex imagery of beings and their supernatural world. Each image morphing into another. I dont even know where to begin describing this. Once I came back to earth, my living room was alive with moving parts of neon colour. This would usually dissipate within 3 mins with DMT alone. This time it lingered far far longer. I began to panic that it wouldn't go away at all, I was confused and it was hard to coordinate my movements or operate any function. I walked to get water and was unbalanced. At this point I was not enjoying myself at all, I considered throwing out all my harmalas as this was the reason it wasn't going away. I regretted smoking the changa first.
If my eyes defocused the entire room including the air was full of moving images. With the carpet and textured ceiling moving around like a million swarming insects.

As I tried to rationalise my thoughts I knew a shower would make me feel better. And boy it did. It was difficult getting the water right as I didn't really know the difference between hot and cold. But now I felt nice, music playing I was at peace. I could begin to enjoy myself.

After the shower I would get distracted with making the house look better, made the bed, cleaned up stuff, put stuff away and hung the laundry out. I felt like being very meticulous with every fine detail of things as this is how people see you and a tidy house makes a large impression. Hard to explain... I could see my life through the possessions I have and how I arranged them.
Then end of this trip was nice, I was enjoying the music and the heat from the sun.

So what a difference the MAOI makes... it basically make the trip deeper and last 10 times as long.
Take note this is a very basic description of the events, as the thought processes within my mind were complex, deep and deranged and thus too hard to put into a few words.

Keep your wits about you because their are some lows before the highs. Although at times I wish I wasn't tripping and regretted doing it. I think it is still worthwhile as I feel like I learn a lot and face my fears. I takes a strong mind to battle some of the negative thoughts I have.

 

[Koornut]

After the shower I would get distracted with making the house look better, made the bed, cleaned up stuff, put stuff away and hung the laundry out. I felt like being very meticulous with every fine detail of things as this is how people see you and a tidy house is makes a large impression. Hard to explain... I could see my life through the possessions I have and how I arranged them.

I love doing this:lol:

 

[superturkey]

You can get that cleaning buzz on a few different drugs i've found. Meth, weed

 

[concombres]

Sounds like your having a nice introduction into dmt superturkey :thumb_up:

Changa in low doses i find is great for cleaning things up & preparing to go deeper.
You have a bit more purified harmalas in the mix than i do. I use 1:1:0.3 dmt/herb/harmalas but half the herb is 10x caapi leaf.

I suggest next time start with 10-15mg doses of changa to get the mind calm & meditative. Get things prepared for the trip around the house while keeping a nice low level effect from the changa, then when everything is all ready, slowly work yourself into a deeper state with 20mg doses divided into a hit or two every few minutes.
The hits stack nicely & spaced apart like that give time to adjust & get comfortable with each level of effects as you climb to a breakthrough

 

[pitubo]

You can't get that cleaning buzz on a few different drugs i've found. Meth, weed

Lol, but you make DMT appear like it is an amphetamine, cleaning your house on it:

I've had some revelations on acid about the state of my place, but never have I actually felt like cleaning up during a trip.

Maybe next time you'll have a more pleasant experience if you give yourself some quiet time to get into and also to get out of the trip. The three minutes that is often mentioned is only describing the absolute "hight" of the trip. Even with only plain DMT, mild open eye visuals can persist for up to fifteen minutes. In practical reality, most people need some time before to prepare themself mentally and at even more time after to get grounded again.

BTW, did you eat the DMT phosphate after smoking changa? That would be unusual, as smoked harmalas are supposedly not a very effective combination with oral DMT. But who knows, maybe some of it was taken up sublingually.

 

[superturkey]

You can't get that cleaning buzz on a few different drugs i've found. Meth, weed

Lol, but you make DMT appear like it is an amphetamine, cleaning your house on it:

I've had some revelations on acid about the state of my place, but never have I actually felt like cleaning up during a trip.

Maybe next time you'll have a more pleasant experience if you give yourself some quiet time to get into and also to get out of the trip. The three minutes that is often mentioned is only describing the absolute "hight" of the trip. Even with only plain DMT, mild open eye visuals can persist for up to fifteen minutes. In practical reality, most people need some time before to prepare themself mentally and at even more time after to get grounded again.

BTW, did you eat the DMT phosphate after smoking changa? That would be unusual, as smoked harmalas are supposedly not a very effective combination with oral DMT. But who knows, maybe some of it was taken up sublingually.

The 3 minutes I meant was the afterglow after the being in hyperspace, so the massive difference was the extended afterglow from 3 mins to almost an hour...whoa

DMT was not taken orally, nor was it smoked or snorted if ya get what I mean.
I have trouble getting a full dose while smoking, and find smoking to have some nasty side effects to my lungs, tongue and throat. They don't like to discuss my means of administration here so I don't mention it.

 

[pitubo]

I think I understand. Be very careful then, but I hope you understand that already.

Do you know that changa can be smoked in tiny bits at a time and that the harmalas in it will make the DMT work cumulative, so that you can slowly build up to a breakthrough? That way you don't need to hold so much in your lungs at once.

Alternatively, you can eat the harmalas or take them sublingually and then vaporize DMT slowly in bits that you can handle. This way, the harmalas will also allow a gradual buildup of the dose.