AluminumFoilRobots
gufyg
Hello! This is actually a report on the Chloro analogue, but in the interest of not having excessive numbers of RC threads all over the place, I will post this experience in this thread (supposing no one objects, that is!).
25C-NBOMe!
PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set:Rested, excited, and that not-quite groggy just-woke-up feeling
(physical condition) Set:Rested and well fed. Somewhat sick with a bronchial and throat issue.
Setting (location):Childhood home, inside and outside. Short walks around the block.
time of day: Noon
recent drug use: Jurema and some changa two days prior, changa/DMT several times in the preceeding week.
last meal: Empty stomach, ate 2 hours into experience.
PARTICIPANT
Gender: (Male
body weight: 67 kilos
known sensitivities: none
history of use: Generally experienced with psychedelics esp. oral DMT. 2 prior experiences with a cousin of this substance, first time for this particular guy.
BIOASSAY[/u]
Substance(s): 25C-NBOMe, Cannabis , Wine
Dose(s): ~1050µg, lots!, and 2-3 glasses
Method of administration: Buccal absorbtion, smoking, and drinking!
EFFECTS
Administration time: T=0:00 2 blotters T=1:00 3rd blotter. T=7:00 wine drinking
Duration: at least 9 hours, went to sleep at that point
First effects:T=0:45
Peak: T=1:30 – T=4:30
Come down:T=4:30 - T=9:00
Baseline:next morning
Intensity (overall): 3
Evaluation / notes:It was really quite strong, but not by a long shot was it the most enveloping or overtaking psychedelic I’d ever taken. Somehow even at that high dosage, which gave very powerful effects, I was still totally “with it”.
OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: 3.5
Unplesantness: 1.5
Visual Intensity: 3.5
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AFTER-EFFECTS
Hangover: 1 ; residual headache ; few hours)
Afterglow: 2 ; general glow and vibrance ; few hours)
REPORT
I started the day, while smoking my first cigarette, debating myself whether or not I should try this new, super-potent mescaline analogue. I’d been tripping a lot and just had an extremely epic trip a day before this one. I didn’t want to devalue that trip and I was also afraid that it wouldn’t work (thankfully DMT’s lack of real tolerance). After maybe 15 minutes of debate I went ahead. I had 3 blotters estimated to be around 350 mics each. I took two, and put them in my upper lip indefinantly. The 25C’s taste, while being quite chemically, was better than the 25I. This one just tasted like wintergreen and within minutes my mouth was totally numb.
The first warnings came on at around half an hour, that indistinct sense that something was approaching – a piquing of my interest. Over the next 30 minutes this evolved into a very mescaline-like electrical body-feel – like tapping into the essence of life itself. I could feel this electricity making its way around my skin, making its way down into my flesh and into my nerves. When it seemed to reach its extent visuals began creeping on. At first very mild but quickly gaining in intensity, there were technicolor lines which began to form into very beautiful visuals. They were distinctly “technicolor”, highly saturated pinks, chartreuse, electric blue and crimson. Everything got very crisp and the visuals were buidling in complexity. The closest thing I have had to it was mescaline, so that is what I will compare it with. It was like it, the same general gestalt like the artists are in the same school but are still different individuals. Mescaline emparts the jeweled palaces, very geological like crystal-matrices. This stuff was quite a bit like that, but the color was more technicolor and shiny; also the design was different, less straight lines… like “flowery” mescaline, there were “frills” on the jewles. Around 1 hour in, I take the third blotter.
As this progressed, the electric body-high became very strong, like I put my finger in a socket! Not painful, but very ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. It wasn’t anything like the every-cell vibration of DMT, it was like SHAZAM! Pure beautiful and natural energy, an absolute ZEST for existence in general! A rising elation bgaan to pour out of me and I was filled with absolute hilarity. For the next two to three hours I would laugh maniacally at ANYTHING that was said to me. I mean someone would say “hello” and I would break into such a peal of laughter that I would begin to cry! I laughed so much that the muscles in my head and face began aching terribly – but this only made me laugh harder. How wonderful to laugh “Too much!”, how fine to hurt oneself by smiling too widely!
We were smoking pot and making lots of very lively fun conversation – I was the only one tripping but everyone noted how witty and on-point everyone was being. Not to say anything, but I feel as though the energy I was putting off was influencing the group in a positive way – hilarity is infectious! Around this time (2 – 2 ½ hours) I think the third tab started to hit and I felt like I was going through the roof with ecstasy. The ecstasy that this substance gave me was very mescaline-like in it’s lightning-strike and trumpetous entrance, however there were clear differences. It seemed less “grandfatherly” than mescaline, the visions were sparser and honestly weirder, I suppose there is more “depth” to the mescaline ecstasy. It was less “mystical union” a la mescaline – but there I was, beaming with joy, utterly natural feeling joy. Little could abate this joy. I had to go outside, I felt like my energy was just boucning around the room. I ate right before this and there was no issue there. Food tasted great and eating felt fine
The visuals are now extremely strong. I am looking at the grass doing rapid-fire comparisions of how this drug makes this patch of grass look compared to jurema 2 days earlier and all the other psychedelics I’ve looked at grass on (all of them!) The grass was looking very 90’s CG art, spiky but soft-edged at the same time. This stuff is angular! Lots of zig-zag lines, all the shapes seem to be based on varying zig-zags at this point, such a host of zig-zags! Comparing to 25I-NBOMe: The Iodo analogue was of a rather different nature. Less electric for sure, much more “feminine”. The most prominent visuals with that stuff were these phosphorescent “clouds” that would billow into the room and that things like the numbers on clocks would MELT right off the clock! It seemed like the 25C and 25I were male/female cousins... the chloro analogue was for sure a male drug – hard-lined, energetic, enthusiastic and fire-based (Iodo being water-based I think, it’s very “flowing” if not downright “sloshy-galoshy” as I put it during this trip!. I was also going on this big analysis of Male and Female psychedelics, which I may or may not expand upon further at a later date.
I began getting visions: I receive a lecture from some venerable old professor on the relationship of books and lectures and its relevence to the average reader! This was really funny to me and when I realized what it was that I was envisioning it dissipated! It was profoundly weird but totally fine! Around this time (3 – 3 ½ hours) I start to get a nasty tension headache which was probably precipitated by all that excessive laughter (still totally worth it). At this time I agree to bust out the changa and share with my friends. There are two people trying that are almost totally psychedelicly-naïve…. One of them decides he wants Jurema, so I oblige. The rest of the crew decides to get on the 25C-NBOMe train with me. I prepare mentally for a big group trip at my house.
After everyone gets some changa, I decide to load some enhanced leaf, apparently forgetting that there would liekly still be harmalas in the bowl. DO NOT MIX HARMALA ALKALOIDS WITH THIESE SUBSTANCES! Right after exhaling my headache kicks into high gear, full-blown migrane which inhibits me the rest of the night. After sitting for a minute to wait for any terrible effects to start I get up and go back to the group and report the terrible headache. The kid on Jurema takes a hit of changa and goes DEEP, purging everywhere and falling into the far-visionary state. We cheer him on and explain to his girlfriend (I guess) that he’s going to be fine he’s just really in deep. It is decided that a bit of Alcohol is in order, as we have found this class of substance to go with alcohol for whatever reason. Not to get drunk (unless you want) but the second half of a high-dose of this stuff is rather edgy and it helps with that.
Everyone else doses at around 5 o’ clock and all have various but good trips. I felt rather pround of myself for helping a really good group-experience happen by providing the good, safe environment for exploring. It was a good group too. However, my experience was winding down and my head was throbbing, so I drank 3 glasses of wine and fell asleep at 9 or 10. Altogether it was a wonderful experience, I really needed a hefty dose of pure ecstatic joy! I found this to be another very promising substance from a rather promising class, however I DID find the chloro-analogue to have more classic 2C-type negative side-effects all generally stemming from tension. I found that I had to consciously relax more than I would like to. The Iodo wasn’t like this, no tension at all. The visuals were very beautiful and it does have a capacity for vision, of course nothing like it’s grandfather Mescaline or something like DMT or Psilocin... but the capacity is there. It was genuinely fun, almost wholesome. Very family, love, sharing, caring, giving kind of trip. Not exploring the inner working of the universe, but hey, I do a lot of DMT anyway! Sometimes its good to take a psychedelic that focuses on more “Human” stuff and that’s what I love about phenethylamines.
Anyway thanks for reading!
25C-NBOMe!
PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set:Rested, excited, and that not-quite groggy just-woke-up feeling
(physical condition) Set:Rested and well fed. Somewhat sick with a bronchial and throat issue.
Setting (location):Childhood home, inside and outside. Short walks around the block.
time of day: Noon
recent drug use: Jurema and some changa two days prior, changa/DMT several times in the preceeding week.
last meal: Empty stomach, ate 2 hours into experience.
PARTICIPANT
Gender: (Male
body weight: 67 kilos
known sensitivities: none
history of use: Generally experienced with psychedelics esp. oral DMT. 2 prior experiences with a cousin of this substance, first time for this particular guy.
BIOASSAY[/u]
Substance(s): 25C-NBOMe, Cannabis , Wine
Dose(s): ~1050µg, lots!, and 2-3 glasses
Method of administration: Buccal absorbtion, smoking, and drinking!
EFFECTS
Administration time: T=0:00 2 blotters T=1:00 3rd blotter. T=7:00 wine drinking
Duration: at least 9 hours, went to sleep at that point
First effects:T=0:45
Peak: T=1:30 – T=4:30
Come down:T=4:30 - T=9:00
Baseline:next morning
Intensity (overall): 3
Evaluation / notes:It was really quite strong, but not by a long shot was it the most enveloping or overtaking psychedelic I’d ever taken. Somehow even at that high dosage, which gave very powerful effects, I was still totally “with it”.
OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: 3.5
Unplesantness: 1.5
Visual Intensity: 3.5
.
.
.
AFTER-EFFECTS
Hangover: 1 ; residual headache ; few hours)
Afterglow: 2 ; general glow and vibrance ; few hours)
REPORT
I started the day, while smoking my first cigarette, debating myself whether or not I should try this new, super-potent mescaline analogue. I’d been tripping a lot and just had an extremely epic trip a day before this one. I didn’t want to devalue that trip and I was also afraid that it wouldn’t work (thankfully DMT’s lack of real tolerance). After maybe 15 minutes of debate I went ahead. I had 3 blotters estimated to be around 350 mics each. I took two, and put them in my upper lip indefinantly. The 25C’s taste, while being quite chemically, was better than the 25I. This one just tasted like wintergreen and within minutes my mouth was totally numb.
The first warnings came on at around half an hour, that indistinct sense that something was approaching – a piquing of my interest. Over the next 30 minutes this evolved into a very mescaline-like electrical body-feel – like tapping into the essence of life itself. I could feel this electricity making its way around my skin, making its way down into my flesh and into my nerves. When it seemed to reach its extent visuals began creeping on. At first very mild but quickly gaining in intensity, there were technicolor lines which began to form into very beautiful visuals. They were distinctly “technicolor”, highly saturated pinks, chartreuse, electric blue and crimson. Everything got very crisp and the visuals were buidling in complexity. The closest thing I have had to it was mescaline, so that is what I will compare it with. It was like it, the same general gestalt like the artists are in the same school but are still different individuals. Mescaline emparts the jeweled palaces, very geological like crystal-matrices. This stuff was quite a bit like that, but the color was more technicolor and shiny; also the design was different, less straight lines… like “flowery” mescaline, there were “frills” on the jewles. Around 1 hour in, I take the third blotter.
As this progressed, the electric body-high became very strong, like I put my finger in a socket! Not painful, but very ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. It wasn’t anything like the every-cell vibration of DMT, it was like SHAZAM! Pure beautiful and natural energy, an absolute ZEST for existence in general! A rising elation bgaan to pour out of me and I was filled with absolute hilarity. For the next two to three hours I would laugh maniacally at ANYTHING that was said to me. I mean someone would say “hello” and I would break into such a peal of laughter that I would begin to cry! I laughed so much that the muscles in my head and face began aching terribly – but this only made me laugh harder. How wonderful to laugh “Too much!”, how fine to hurt oneself by smiling too widely!
We were smoking pot and making lots of very lively fun conversation – I was the only one tripping but everyone noted how witty and on-point everyone was being. Not to say anything, but I feel as though the energy I was putting off was influencing the group in a positive way – hilarity is infectious! Around this time (2 – 2 ½ hours) I think the third tab started to hit and I felt like I was going through the roof with ecstasy. The ecstasy that this substance gave me was very mescaline-like in it’s lightning-strike and trumpetous entrance, however there were clear differences. It seemed less “grandfatherly” than mescaline, the visions were sparser and honestly weirder, I suppose there is more “depth” to the mescaline ecstasy. It was less “mystical union” a la mescaline – but there I was, beaming with joy, utterly natural feeling joy. Little could abate this joy. I had to go outside, I felt like my energy was just boucning around the room. I ate right before this and there was no issue there. Food tasted great and eating felt fine
The visuals are now extremely strong. I am looking at the grass doing rapid-fire comparisions of how this drug makes this patch of grass look compared to jurema 2 days earlier and all the other psychedelics I’ve looked at grass on (all of them!) The grass was looking very 90’s CG art, spiky but soft-edged at the same time. This stuff is angular! Lots of zig-zag lines, all the shapes seem to be based on varying zig-zags at this point, such a host of zig-zags! Comparing to 25I-NBOMe: The Iodo analogue was of a rather different nature. Less electric for sure, much more “feminine”. The most prominent visuals with that stuff were these phosphorescent “clouds” that would billow into the room and that things like the numbers on clocks would MELT right off the clock! It seemed like the 25C and 25I were male/female cousins... the chloro analogue was for sure a male drug – hard-lined, energetic, enthusiastic and fire-based (Iodo being water-based I think, it’s very “flowing” if not downright “sloshy-galoshy” as I put it during this trip!. I was also going on this big analysis of Male and Female psychedelics, which I may or may not expand upon further at a later date.
I began getting visions: I receive a lecture from some venerable old professor on the relationship of books and lectures and its relevence to the average reader! This was really funny to me and when I realized what it was that I was envisioning it dissipated! It was profoundly weird but totally fine! Around this time (3 – 3 ½ hours) I start to get a nasty tension headache which was probably precipitated by all that excessive laughter (still totally worth it). At this time I agree to bust out the changa and share with my friends. There are two people trying that are almost totally psychedelicly-naïve…. One of them decides he wants Jurema, so I oblige. The rest of the crew decides to get on the 25C-NBOMe train with me. I prepare mentally for a big group trip at my house.
After everyone gets some changa, I decide to load some enhanced leaf, apparently forgetting that there would liekly still be harmalas in the bowl. DO NOT MIX HARMALA ALKALOIDS WITH THIESE SUBSTANCES! Right after exhaling my headache kicks into high gear, full-blown migrane which inhibits me the rest of the night. After sitting for a minute to wait for any terrible effects to start I get up and go back to the group and report the terrible headache. The kid on Jurema takes a hit of changa and goes DEEP, purging everywhere and falling into the far-visionary state. We cheer him on and explain to his girlfriend (I guess) that he’s going to be fine he’s just really in deep. It is decided that a bit of Alcohol is in order, as we have found this class of substance to go with alcohol for whatever reason. Not to get drunk (unless you want) but the second half of a high-dose of this stuff is rather edgy and it helps with that.
Everyone else doses at around 5 o’ clock and all have various but good trips. I felt rather pround of myself for helping a really good group-experience happen by providing the good, safe environment for exploring. It was a good group too. However, my experience was winding down and my head was throbbing, so I drank 3 glasses of wine and fell asleep at 9 or 10. Altogether it was a wonderful experience, I really needed a hefty dose of pure ecstatic joy! I found this to be another very promising substance from a rather promising class, however I DID find the chloro-analogue to have more classic 2C-type negative side-effects all generally stemming from tension. I found that I had to consciously relax more than I would like to. The Iodo wasn’t like this, no tension at all. The visuals were very beautiful and it does have a capacity for vision, of course nothing like it’s grandfather Mescaline or something like DMT or Psilocin... but the capacity is there. It was genuinely fun, almost wholesome. Very family, love, sharing, caring, giving kind of trip. Not exploring the inner working of the universe, but hey, I do a lot of DMT anyway! Sometimes its good to take a psychedelic that focuses on more “Human” stuff and that’s what I love about phenethylamines.
Anyway thanks for reading!
