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DoctorMantus

DoctorMantus

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Hey so my friend has stumbled upon some 2C-i and is very interested in trying it.

He would love to here what others have to say about its experience compared to others.

What he did find is that Oraly the dose is higher and snorted the dose is lower, glad he found this it seems like an important note to know. :)

What have been your experiences with this, and what was your dosage,
light 5–10 mg
Common 10–20 mg
Strong 20–30 mg

These are what he found and the duration is 4-12 hrs this sounds insane, how long have your experiences lasted?
He thinks that the experience may differ from male to female.

And he is sure that set and setting play a big role in the experience.

Idk what else to add any other useful info or input that anyone has would be appreciated.
 
There is another thing he would like to add, he would like to add something on top of it, but am unsure of what would be ok, he has some extra caapi and extra rue sitting around and would like to put it to use, if its suggested not to mix, what would be a good mixer to mix with it.
 
Really well i apologize i was not aware
should i remove it or can it be adjusted so it meets the criteria of the attitude section?
 
Its been a while since we changed the policy so that it depends on contextual aspects. Please read this carefully:


I would say the first post was neutral... The second post though, I would not mix any substituted phenetylamine (like 2C-x) and MAOIs. I would rather have one of the doctors/experts talk about it but sounds like an unsafe combination.

Please inform yourself well before taking any combination! Also I hope you understand that RC have inherent dangers regarding possible mislabelling and so on, even from usual trusted suppliers. Please micro-dose any batch for first time, and look into simple colorimetric tests:


 
DoctorMantus said:
There is another thing he would like to add, he would like to add something on top of it, but am unsure of what would be ok, he has some extra caapi and extra rue sitting around and would like to put it to use, if its suggested not to mix, what would be a good mixer to mix with it.
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It is my understanding that the 2C family is not to be mixed with MAOI, maybe someone with better knowledge of the issues could chip in though.
 
endlessness said:
Its been a while since we changed the policy so that it depends on contextual aspects. Please read this carefully:


I would say the first post was neutral... The second post though, I would not mix any substituted phenetylamine (like 2C-x) and MAOIs. I would rather have one of the doctors/experts talk about it but sounds like an unsafe combination.

Please inform yourself well before taking any combination! Also I hope you understand that RC have inherent dangers regarding possible mislabeling and so on, even from usual trusted suppliers. Please micro-dose any batch for first time, and look into simple colorimetric tests:


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Thank you for the info, yes plan on searching as much as he can, and of course he wont be doing any combination, thank you for the guidance and he will be sure to take his steps carefully and responsibly. thank you again
 
Parshvik Chintan, please read the Attitude Page:

No discussion is allowed about selling drugs, buying drugs, procuring drugs, prices of drugs, trading drugs and trafficking of drugs. This includes all isolated psychedelic compounds and RCs (Research Chemicals), whether they are legal or not. The only goods allowed to be discussed in the Supplier's section are legal ethnobotanicals and legal/unwatched chemical supplies. See Street Value of DMT (AND WHY YOU SHOULDN'T EVER SELL DMT) for good reasons why we don't allow this.
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I recommend that this post is moved to the Other Drugs section, people that don't like to see RC/Chemical Talk just don't go in that forum usually so there it might get some better answers and more constructive criticism. Listen to endlessness though please read the rules fully before posting and please do not mix a phenylethylamine with a MAOi, it is highly unsafe even at low doses.
 
I have removed any questionable things maybe there is still some left behind maybe someone could help me there, and i had already been told to move it to a different section but i dont have that control ether so if someone could help there too it would be appreciated.
 
Maybe this should be in the 'Other Psychoactives' section?

I have taken 2ci quite a few times. My first time, I took 20mg orally followed by 5 - 10ish mgs insufflated - in retrospect this wasa a bit too much for me. I was tripping very hard for 12 hrs, and still had residual stimulation up to the 18hr mark. So did a few friends who had similar / lower doses.

I also found the body load could get quite uncomfortable, and spent much of the time stretching my muscles and wandering around. Another interesting thing about this compound is that it made me feel revulsed by anything smokey, I could not sit with people who were smoking and nearly threw up when I smoked some THC vapors - which ramped things up considerably for the next few hours :shock:

I found that around the 17 mg mark it was pretty pleasurable, but body load was still present. Also if you plan on taking it orally, make sure you have a reasonably empty stomach, as I once took a bomb shortly after a meal and didn't come up off it for 4 hrs! I had planned to come up during a nice walk in the woods, but came back after a few hrs and went to take a dump and BAM! the floor starts moving around :shock:

Not my favourite compound, but well worth a try at least once, I would have loved something to knock me out after that first experience though, the stimulation is no joke!

And yeah, I think MAOI would almost certainly lead to problems, this compound really doesn't need enhancement.
 
Maybe this should be in the 'Other Psychoactives' section?
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Great minds must think alike. :)

If it interests you Doctor Mantis I have taken 2C-D at doses of 1-100 mg. but this has been the only 2C compound I have had a chance to work with. They usually give me some degree of nausea because I know 2C's act as an irritant on mucosa linings. The compound brings on a good deal of empathy, similar to MDXX compounds with wavey, drippy visuals. Many users don't like them because they seem to have a lack of insight, for me it has it's place though; insight I believe can come with empathy and warm loving visuals can always just be a plus. They give me some degree of jitters on the come-up, making me cold and a tad anxious. Kind of an unnerving come-up, in some ways they feel toxic; at least on the cardiovascular system. I believe they act as an 5HT2B agonist and this is what leads to the cardiovascular stress, I'm pretty sure a majority of the 2C's work in this way just various effects pertaining to visuals and empathy. Like a psychedelic empathogen, I know Shulgin favored his 2C's.

I have mixed 2C-D with low doses of, tryptamines, dissociatives, and cannabinoids; if you are curious I will help you any way I can. We need to promote safety and educated use with these compounds.

Hope this helps your friend a bit.

-Untm
 
Both of you untm and purges have been a great help thanks.

yea my friend plans on taking it slow, i notice both of you mentioned something pertaining smoking, one about cannabis and the other about it acting as a irritant to the mucosa linings, now he uses cannabis and smoke cigarettes so he will probably not want to smoke anything, he finds sometimes higher doses of L when he trys to smoke a cigg his body wont allow him he just gags and has to put it out.

my frined will probably be sticking around 15mg he doesn't when he will do it but when he does ill get the report thanks for the help and response much appreciated.
 
So After Gathering all the information and organizing for this experience, my friend has come to the conclusion that he is not going to do it.

Main reasoning idk he does want to experience it, but feels he doesn't need it, feels as if he wont gain anything from it, so he has called it off.
 
I don't know if you still want some input, but I'll give my two cents.

For ~10mg 2C-B as a pill (weaker than 2C-I):
-The trip was calm and the energy felt wasn't overpowering at all. I had some valuable insight to this and since the dosage was light/med, it was definitely a nice experience especially when walking in the woods and fields and bonding with nature. Generally, the effects were a slight energized but calm change in my inner body, lighter feeling in my legs, and a slight positive enhancement to my sober state of thinking accompanied with some visuals. Overall I give this a positive rating.

For ~7-8mg 2C-P snorted (stronger than 2C-I):
-Intense burning for the first 15 minutes though one can handle it depending on their pain threshold. However, within the first five minutes I was already feeling it come up and was peaking by the 30 minute mark. The effects were a highly agitated inner body feeling as if I had to constantly be moving and the energy wanted to burst out of me, general mindfuck as my thoughts were racing in a manner that I couldn't hold onto one thought so I had little to no realizations that night, some visuals but oddly much less than my 2C-B experience. Overall my rating is negative but I attribute that to my environment and preparation, I'm willing to give P another chance in a better environment. (Apparently it is very much like LSD but I have no comparison there).
 
2c i is good up to 40 mg, after that this cat dosent know what would happen
10 mg is taken every week and yoga is practiced at t+90 min

its inferior to mesc imho but useful as a reliable empathogen and euphoriant,
maois should be avoided, however rimas are unknown and smoked rimas seem even less dangerous

proceed with caution
 
^^ That's been my experience with 2c-i as well. Only been up to 15mg though, but my body size may factor into that. Its a bit stimulating, but definitely worthwhile.

Of the 3 that I've tried (i, d, c), 2c-d @25mg was prob my favorite experience. It feels the most balanced as far as affects go, not too stimulating, or purely visual, mind-fuck, etc.

2c-c is almost too mild, and the dosage required often has too much side affects (25mg+ for me), but its a great introduction to the 2c-x's. Also, I'd say 2c-d fits right in-between 2c-i and 2c-c as far as duration goes, right around 6-8 hrs, compared to 4-6 for c, and 8-12 for i.

Anyone have any experience with t-2?

I feel like I've tried the lightweight ones first, and have yet to taste the e, p, or t-2 i have, but from what I've read they seem very interesting. t-2 looks to be the shortest acting, and highest dosing 2c-t-x (excluding 2c-t), which is definitely a good thing imho.

But if anyone ever has the chance to taste 2c-d, do it. Its a wonderful psychedelic imho. Hands down my favorite phen next to mescaline. Makes me wonder what desoxy is like, being somewhat of a cross between 2c-d and mescaline structurally.

And with all of them, lemon essential oil reduced the nausea and body load significantly ime. Amazing how effective it is for the nausea for a wide range of psychs, phens & trypts.
 
No one on this thread so far has shared experience of 2CE yet so I guess I'll have to :) It's pretty damn amazing. It's incredibly potent, just a capsule with 10-15 mg or so bangs me up for hours.. like 6-10.. take a little more and it goes a long way.. I always have super cool geometric visuals similar to LSD and DMT, I have even seen all around me a web of fiber like strings which seemed to be draped over everything and between all the strings were millions of eyes... it looked like all of matter was this network of cells.. This drug also gave me euphoria and a deep sense of connection with others and a need for self improvement... It caused me to be contemplative of past errors and left me wanting to make changes for the better and also waking up and realizing mistakes I was making...

The most amazing feeling of 2CE though to me is that you experience the one-ness that you experience with break-through doses of DMT, but here in this plane, this dimension, still seeing the world around you. While on this drug I feel as if I am breathing through every pore in my body... My senses are heightened and my surroundings are relaying messages to me.. I have read in certain books that many years ago before mankind took a fall in their state of consciousness, that humans breathed their prana - life force- in a different way which made them more awake, aware and able to use spiritual powers.. I imagined that this feeling is what it must be like.

I have crystals in my room and while on the 2CE when I would put a crystal close to my head I could feel it like a magnet so strongly it would hurt after a couple min.. Pretty damn cool if you ask me.. Anyway I feel it is a very spiritual drug not really something to be used recreationally, although I did use it at the club a few times, but it can kinda throw off your balance if you are trying to dance and it also made me wanna get away from all the people and the grungy-ness and made me a lil paranoid after a couple hours too.. Just felt like I wanted a more peaceful environment. Definitely a gratifying experience but start out with just a little and be careful just like everything else- this stuff is super potent like I said !
 
^^^^ This

2C-E is the benchmark by which I assess all the chems that I research. It has everything in abundance, but nothing in excess. So I can say that DMT is more visual then 2C-E, 5-MeO-DIPT has more bodyload etc.etc.

But nothing I have tasted so far comes even remotely close to the feeling of emotional one-ness with my soul, my body and my surroundings. It is a magical material, and I praise myself lucky that I appear to be able to have access to it indefinitely.

I agree on the "not a clubbing-drug". Though I've only had pleasurable encounters while on it, a word, a look, a vibe can throw you so far off the previous mindset, you can only leave the party. I had this really great conversation around the campfire last NYE with a girl about the ins and outs of my recent divorce. She was totally cool, but afterward my thoughts kept revolving introspectively around this subject. And I was there to have some R&R. So while the material is NOT pushy in any sense but a physical pushyness (at 16-18 mg at least), it can leave you vulnerable and emotional. Good things in my book, but best experienced alone or whith close friends.

I :love: 2C-E.

Peace!
 
Only done 2c-e once and i think i took not enough, i had some cool visuals but was pretty bored by the trip othervice,

Although sex was very enjoyable but impossible to finish up lol, i think that was the longest sexy time ive ever had :)
 

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