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2CB, what's the consensus?

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Another Rube

Another Rube

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After reading the essential guide I can't help but want to become familiar with the substance ( 2C-B ). But I never considered health risks before, the other thread in here, the one on 2c-7 gave me a fright, can anyone suggest from experience the level of respect a hypothetical tripster should have for 2c-b?
 
2C-B is by far the most widely used RC. No deaths have been reported, so it can be assumed to be generally safe. However, you should always show any and all substances the utmost respect. This is especially true for substances that is new to the scene, such as 2C-B. Always start low and work your way up, just as with any other substance.

Personally, I absolutely love 2C-B. I have never had such intense synesthesia as with 2C-B, even if it's not that visionary in itself. It's just something about tasting music, feeling the colors of an artwork and hearing the emotions of my co-trippers that is... magical. But it demands respect! ;)
 
for me, it can provide a sensually engaged and satisfying experience, but unlike most other psychedelics, (& more so than other phens), it tends to reinforce & solidify my ego/identity structure rather than dissolve it...

it seems the general consensus is that 2cb is relatively benign and user-friendly, very grounded, but not especially deep or visionary... (tho there are always exceptions...)

so it has its value and purposes, but i don't think deep shamanic journeying is one of them...
 
Nexus (2c-b) is one of my favorite mindless recreational chemicals. Its great with 4-aco-dmt.
It is very easy to handle even at large doses (60-80mg).
 
In my opinion, these 2c's are to be avoided.

I've tried 2c-i, 2c-e, and 2c-t-2 and they really messed with my head for quite some time.

Of course they were phenomenal when I was on them, but the after effects were not worth it ONE BIT.
 
chimmycham said:
In my opinion, these 2c's are to be avoided.

I've tried 2c-i, 2c-e, and 2c-t-2 and they really messed with my head for quite some time.

Of course they were phenomenal when I was on them, but the after effects were not worth it ONE BIT.
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Well, some 2C-x are part of shulgin's magical half dozen, so I guess it's a matter of taste (or compatibility).
 
Thanks for the input guys!

Totally put my mind at ease. And I had no idea it could induce synesthesia! Is that a common effect? Oooooh MAN!

As for the after effects, in my (albeit highly limited) experience, with some experimentation hangovers of most kinds can usually be beaten. With medication, suppliments, a healthy environment for a healthy mindstate etc etc.

Thanks for the heads up chimmycham!

Oh gosh I still need to read pikhal and nikhal, I just don't have any money D:
 
Another Rube said:
Thanks for the input guys!

Totally put my mind at ease. And I had no idea it could induce synesthesia! Is that a common effect? Oooooh MAN!

As for the after effects, in my (albeit highly limited) experience, with some experimentation hangovers of most kinds can usually be beaten. With medication, suppliments, a healthy environment for a healthy mindstate etc etc.

Thanks for the heads up chimmycham!

Oh gosh I still need to read pikhal and nikhal, I just don't have any money D:
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Part 2 of Pihkal and Tihkal are free, check it out :)
 
chimmycham said:
In my opinion, these 2c's are to be avoided.

I've tried 2c-i, 2c-e, and 2c-t-2 and they really messed with my head for quite some time.

Of course they were phenomenal when I was on them, but the after effects were not worth it ONE BIT.
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Chimmycham, can you elaborate more on this?
 
the 2c's have the least residual effect/hangover style remnants of any compounds for me. I'm not sure if it is just that my body jives with them well, but they have always felt more natural and cohesive with my system than anything else, even completely natural substances.
 
The mistake I made was that i took them too frequently.
The guy who had them gave me 2 free samples of each (i, e and t-2)
I'm positive that he gave me huge doses to show me how strong these compounds are.
I took 2c-i and tripped harder than I've ever tripped on anything else (until trying DMT a year later)
took a day off, then took 2c-e...best one by far, in my opinion.
promised myself i would take a break, but after skipping one more day took 2c-t-2 because my friend wanted to try it.
so it went 2c-i, 1 day break, 2c-e, one-day break, 2c-t-2
For about 2 months after taking these, I would get ridiculous hallucinations where colors would switch places and I could not control it whatsoever.
I thought I had ruined my brain.
What's strange is that once I tried DMT, it all (seemingly magically) went away.
DMT like healed my brain somehow.
And now, over 2 years later, I am still completely fine. Thank god for DMT.

Elf Machine said:
chimmycham said:
In my opinion, these 2c's are to be avoided.

I've tried 2c-i, 2c-e, and 2c-t-2 and they really messed with my head for quite some time.

Of course they were phenomenal when I was on them, but the after effects were not worth it ONE BIT.
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Chimmycham, can you elaborate more on this?
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chimmycham said:
The mistake I made was that i took them too frequently.
The guy who had them gave me 2 free samples of each (i, e and t-2)
I'm positive that he gave me huge doses to show me how strong these compounds are.
I took 2c-i and tripped harder than I've ever tripped on anything else (until trying DMT a year later)
took a day off, then took 2c-e...best one by far, in my opinion.
promised myself i would take a break, but after skipping one more day took 2c-t-2 because my friend wanted to try it.
so it went 2c-i, 1 day break, 2c-e, one-day break, 2c-t-2
For about 2 months after taking these, I would get ridiculous hallucinations where colors would switch places and I could not control it whatsoever.
I thought I had ruined my brain.
What's strange is that once I tried DMT, it all (seemingly magically) went away.
DMT like healed my brain somehow.
And now, over 2 years later, I am still completely fine. Thank god for DMT.
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Thank you for tell us this experience. My friends tried 2c-b often ( but not in close times) and had a similar subjective feeling: that the brain was frying. The doses were slow ( from 10 to 15 mg) but fully psychedelic without hangovers; psychedelic NOT entheogenic I could highlight .
 
I tripped my balls off on 2-cb. Within 5 minutes of taking it I was unable to talk, I went in my friends room and laid in his bed and closed my eyes and I seriously believed I was at a club standing in line waiting to take a piss. Fucking crazy. The only thing I did not like about it was the fact that I felt like I had a cold the entire trip, just body aches and stuff its kind of a dirty trip.
 
i have taken 2c-b a handful of times and although it's quite enjoyable, i have noticed it seems to produce an annoying and sometimes painful headache in the back of my head basicaally 3/5 times i've tried it. this is a very recreational drug as i could even eat dinner with my parents under the influence of it. relatively safe chemical in my eyes too...
 
giver of will said:
I tripped my balls off on 2-cb. Within 5 minutes of taking it I was unable to talk, I went in my friends room and laid in his bed and closed my eyes and I seriously believed I was at a club standing in line waiting to take a piss. Fucking crazy. The only thing I did not like about it was the fact that I felt like I had a cold the entire trip, just body aches and stuff its kind of a dirty trip.
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Could just be that the chemical is affecting us differently but I took 60mg yesterday which is a fairly strong dose for 2cb. The come up made me really tired and I just had to lay down but I attribute that to eating only thirty minutes before I took it. Would definitely take it on a completely empty stomach next time. After about an hour the haziness and nausea cleared and I experienced a very clearheaded high with visuals very similar to LSD. I felt no after effects once I came down and it was a surprisingly clean trip for me. I definitely agree this is more of a recreational drug, I had a lot of fun but it was absolutely void of any 'deeper thoughts' I associate with things like LSD, dmt, cactus, etc.
 
chimmycham said:
I thought I had ruined my brain.
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This is what I thought as well, it was a very fun experience, very creative, it will make someone who is not creative, creative, and someone who is creative even more creative. I felt it had a brain numbing head space similar to LSD, a point where I felt hungover while still tripping, kind of like spending all your serotonin while the substance is still asking for more.
 
I've tried it at 20 and 25mg, besides some transient stomach/gut discomfort, no adverse side effects.

Some stimulation was noted, but rnothing particularly violent.

While mildly interesting, I found it pretty disappointing. Shallow and devoid of insights. Some empathogenic qualities, but a joke compared to MDMA or low dose mescaline.

Very (,very) mildly psychedelic. Rational self absolutely intact and centered. Amphetamine-like effects (particularly) noticeable after the peak.

Some music enhancement, but nothing magical for me.
Didn't feel toxic to body or mind.

In my (limited) experience, it's a nice substance for going out on a stroll, or perhaps to spend an afternoon with someone you're intimate with (increased body sensations were also noted).
 
Have only tried 2cb and 2ci. 2cb extensively. Have some 2ct7 but haven't really had much of an inclination to sample it yet.

2cb is fun. It is sparkly and can get very visual at higher doses but as said, there is no real substance to it, just enhancement, patterns and 'fireworks'. Personally I think it is best stacked on top of some mdma.

Interesting the above comment about the tension at the back of the head. I get that. A kind of skull cramp. Can get very uncomfortable at higher doses. I imagine at those 60mg(!!!) doses it would be unbearable for me.

Snorting hurts like hell, but increases potency and visual effects. Shorter trip too.

2ci had a horrible body load for me at higher doses, and one time lasted 18hrs, 25mg oral and 5-10mg insufflated which was just hard work. Extraordinary visuals on that experience though.

Ultimately I view it as a poor man's LSD, which I find far superior. Can't be bothered with 2cx muscle tension that seems to haunt me, so I'm done with them for the foreseeable future.
 
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