4 substituted Changa?

[STRL]

I'm wondering if anyone has tried adding one of the 4 substituted tryptamine compounds (Psilocybin, 4-ACO-DMT and so on) to their Changa? If so, how did it work out?

Anyone care to speculate how this might effect the experience? Are there potential dangers combining these with harmaline/harmine?

It is often said that mushrooms cannot be smoked because the heat destroys the active compounds, but maybe in Changa form this could be overcome.

I'm not suggesting anyone try this, but I think it's worth discussing.

 

[soulfood]

Psilocybin and psilocin won't work, that's for sure.

Bufotenine is interesting, but definately not a worthy substitution.

Can't comment on 4-ACO's.

 

[merthyn]

Well I can only say on this topic that from repeated personal experience, I have discovered and come to the firm belief that Cubensis mushrooms, or any Psiloid fungus, can have an effect when smoked. Everyone chuckles and thinks "if by have an effect you mean going blind, then yes, yes it does". But I mean smoking shrooms gets ya high gents. not like eating them , but I've never smoked a two gram shroom session. It gets you mildly high, I will even compare it to a puff or two of jim jam from an electric ciggarette. I'll tell ya what I HAVE done though..... and if you dont believe me Ill post a youtube video of it.....I have done straight eye tokes of mushrooms. thats right, like the natives do with weed. it hurts like satans dildo and your eye looks like it just got hydrochloric dripped into it, for a few seconds. but you can see out of it, and the pain and redness goes away faster that it does after a open eye swim at the YMCA. I have only recently been gathering info on smoking and ingesting of maoi and I will post about it very soon but for now, Smoking mushrooms works in canada. just saying.

meat is a vegetable in canada too.
Merllyn

 

[STRL]

Ouch Merthyn, that sounds incredibly painful! What are the benefits of such administration?

Various post's here and elsewhere suggest 4-ACO could be freebased, rendering it smokeable, could be an option...

 

[Purges]

What is an 'eye toke'?!