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5-MeO-MALT Experiences?

Here&Now

Here&Now

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Anybody have experience with this interesting molecule? It's supposed to be very similar to 5-MeO-DMT in the way it can reliably produce a nondual state, which kind of puts the two in a class of their own amongst psychedelics. The lack of information on the internet is shocking. Even Erowid only has a few trip reports.

Would love to hear from anyone who can describe their experience and make comparisons to 5-MeO-DMT. Especially at the breakthrough level.
 
I've had the chance to try 5-MeO-MALT. IMHO, it is not as good as 5-MeO-DMT. It subjectively feels like it's touching on the same aspects, but doing it in an imperfect and 'unnatural' way. There's a kind of electric energy associated with the experience that makes it difficult to relax and let go. It wouldn't be my first choice, but then again, the few other reports on the internet seem to favor it, so YMMV.
 
Here&Now said:
I've had the chance to try 5-MeO-MALT. IMHO, it is not as good as 5-MeO-DMT. It subjectively feels like it's touching on the same aspects, but doing it in an imperfect and 'unnatural' way. There's a kind of electric energy associated with the experience that makes it difficult to relax and let go. It wouldn't be my first choice, but then again, the few other reports on the internet seem to favor it, so YMMV.
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Did you have any further experiences with this at all and has your opinion changed?
 
I've tried 5-meo-DALT. It was interesting and really pleasant, but not comparable to 5-meo-DMT at all. It does put a certain pressure on the heart like the 5-meo-DMT, but so does 5-meo-MiPT and 5-meo-DiPT. So, in terms of body load all these 5-meo tryptamines share some similarities, but in terms of everything else, they're very different. DALT has more in common with MiPT and DiPT I think.
 
Panpsychic said:
Did you have any further experiences with this at all and has your opinion changed?
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Yeah, I've used it two or three times since that earlier post. I'd say my opinion has softened a bit.

5-MeO-MALT is in a very exclusive class of psychedelics; its breakthrough reliably leads to a nondual revelation, although not quite as directly or naturally as 5-MeO-DMT. It also lasts twice as long as 5-MeO-DMT, and it has some minor characteristics that are somewhat reminiscent of DMT and other subtle-level psychedelics, such as neon visuals. If nothing else, I'm thankful that the option of 5-MeO-MALT exists, though it still wouldn't be my first choice as a tool for enhancing the meditative life. But it is essentially the second best.
 
Here&Now said:
Yeah, I've used it two or three times since that earlier post. I'd say my opinion has softened a bit.

5-MeO-MALT is in a very exclusive class of psychedelics; its breakthrough reliably leads to a nondual revelation, although not quite as directly or naturally as 5-MeO-DMT. It also lasts twice as long as 5-MeO-DMT, and it has some minor characteristics that are somewhat reminiscent of DMT and other subtle-level psychedelics, such as neon visuals. If nothing else, I'm thankful that the option of 5-MeO-MALT exists, though it still wouldn't be my first choice as a tool for enhancing the meditative life. But it is essentially the second best.
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Can you elaborate a bit on why you consider it the "2nd best" for this purpose and also what was your ROA?
I would have thought the double duration would be a great merit to it, although it seems you are saying since it has a slightly higher propensity for visuals this in your view lowers it from being the pure clear light nondual experince that 5-MEO usually gives, although I have heard of visuals sometimes with 5 also.
 
Panpsychic said:
Can you elaborate a bit on why you consider it the "2nd best" for this purpose and also what was your ROA?
I would have thought the double duration would be a great merit to it, although it seems you are saying since it has a slightly higher propensity for visuals this in your view lowers it from being the pure clear light nondual experince that 5-MEO usually gives, although I have heard of visuals sometimes with 5 also.
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Sure, of course. For 5-MeO-MALT, I've tried vaping using a PG+substance mix and I've tried subcutaneous injection. The increased duration does give it a boost in my mind. Working with 5-MeO-DMT, it can be tough when it begins wearing off after 30 minutes and you've only just begun to have some real awareness-based progress. I should also mention that it takes about half the dose of 5-MeO-DMT to attain equal effects.

And yeah, I should have been more clear about the visuals part. I wasn't considering that a negative; I was more so just listing 5-MeO-MALT's characteristics. You're correct that 5-MeO-DMT can create what might be called visuals as well, specifically when the dose starts approaching a breakthrough. But they're quite different from any other visuals I've seen before. It's very much as if you are the visuals, and they appear profound beyond comprehension and encapsulate divine wisdom. It's a very holistic kind of thing that's impossible to describe or even recall accurately.

One of the main reasons I don't favor 5-MeO-MALT is that it has much more of a stimulant-like effect than 5-MeO-DMT. It's a kind of uneasiness and a feeling of being wired. My hands will literally shake with tiny tremors when I'm deep into a 5-MeO-MALT trip. Additionally, it just feels like it's a slightly lacking in some key ingredient to the unitive mystical experience. I once used 5-MeO-DMT within a few days after to make a close comparison, and the difference was noticeably stark. It was as if 5-MeO-DMT places you right in the center of a road on your way to the nondual. And then 5-MeO-MALT has you going down the same road, but you're off to the left or right, taking an inefficient path, or even traveling in the ditch alongside the road. It just didn't intuitively feel quite as effective of a tool, even though it's more effective for this purpose than any other I'm aware of besides 5-MeO-DMT.

But it's also possible I have a bias of some kind that's coloring my experience, so I certainly wouldn't recommend against at least trying 5-MeO-MALT, especially if you're interested in this kind of practice. There's no denying its power.
 
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