700mg of mescaline

[Mimosaquero]

greetings fellow travelers, i plan on embarking on a high dose mescaline session really soon. just waiting till i have the 16-18 hours to commit, ive never went this high before on cacti so im very interested in people's experiences in this territory. i know psychedelic experiences are subjective so im mostly just looking for some kinda understanding. most of my experience is in dmt/ayahuasca which i have years of experience doing high dose/ mind bending experiences with so im not worried about getting a "bad trip" or "freaking out" just wanna understand what im truly getting myself into. thanks you in advance!

regards, Mimosaquero.

 

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what im truly getting myself into

A very nice time, most likely!

Just be aware that mescaline is very unlike Aya in that it doesn't impose itself on you. Even when visuals and physical sensations are strong, it still has a gentleness to it, and the intensity goes down if you need it to (e.g. to go pee). Also, if you're looking for depth, it requires your collaboration by focusing on the experience. With your eyes closed and focusing, it can get quite deep. It just won't force any depth on you like Aya may do, at least not at that dose.

In my case, my mind feels slow and sometimes kind of empty. I can enjoy just being there, like a rock (or a cactus), without doing anything.

There's this paradoxical effect that, despite it being stimulating, one often doesn't feel like moving at all, particularly during the first half of the experience. The second half can be very adequate for hiking or doing some kind of physical activity, but again the stimulation doesn't force you do it.

Expect some possible nausea during the first couple of hours, but it's a nausea that's nothing compared to Aya nausea. Again, very gentle and benign, and will go away once the come-up is over.

Having a strong cup of coffee at the midpoint of the experience gives it a small boost in intensity.

Enjoy your experience! I have been getting into cactus for the last few months and I find it to be excellent.

 

[Mimosaquero]

if you're looking for depth, it requires your collaboration by focusing on the experience. With your eyes closed and focusing, it can get quite deep. It just won't force any depth on you like Aya may do, at least not at that dose.

700mg isnt alot? im only asking cause most say 500mg+ is where it starts to pick up the pace a bit. im just looking for mostly a strong/heavy experience that will induce realizations and such.

 

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700mg isnt alot?

It depends on the person. It's generally a strong dose, yes.

a strong/heavy experience that will induce realizations and such

In my limited experience, mescaline doesn't tend to induce that by itself in the way Ayahuasca does. With Ayahuasca it seems to come from the outside and sometimes to be forced upon you, with mescaline not so much. You can definitely go deep and have realizations at that dose (it's a solid dose), but the character of the substance requires a more active approach than just waiting for it to come to you IMO.

E. g. if you're with your eyes closed and not moving and focus on the experience you will start to go deeper and deeper. But this is not forced upon you, you could very well be moving around instead, or talking to other people. Ayahuasca forces you to pay attention, mescaline lets you choose.

It may be more forceful at very high doses, I don't know (I'm sure many other people here have experience with that). But I'd say if you're looking for forcefulness mescaline is not the right tool. So I'd advice to approach it on its own terms. Gentleness can be very good too, and if you choose to and do your part you're very likely to have a profound experience.

 

[Mimosaquero]

It depends on the person. It's generally a strong dose, yes.


In my limited experience, mescaline doesn't tend to induce that by itself in the way Ayahuasca does. With Ayahuasca it seems to come from the outside and sometimes to be forced upon you, with mescaline not so much. You can definitely go deep and have realizations at that dose (it's a solid dose), but the character of the substance requires a more active approach than just waiting for it to come to you IMO.

E. g. if you're with your eyes closed and not moving and focus on the experience you will start to go deeper and deeper. But this is not forced upon you, you could very well be moving around instead, or talking to other people. Ayahuasca forces you to pay attention, mescaline lets you choose.

It may be more forceful at very high doses, I don't know (I'm sure many other people here have experience with that). But I'd say if you're looking for forcefulness mescaline is not the right tool. So I'd advice to approach it on its own terms. Gentleness can be very good too, and if you choose to and do your part you're very likely to have a profound experience.

i see now, its more so relies on you giving into the experience fully. i plan on consuming it while having my wife trip sit me for at least the first half. im planning on mostly just listening to music and being on my back for at least the peak. i understand its not gona be like ayahuasca in the way that it wont just slap me in the face with deep thoughts, from my experience (which is limited) with san pedro/mescaline is that it tends to very centered around emotions and feeling connected to all things compared to ayahuasca being about disconnecting from things into different realms.

 

[doubledog]

Dose depends on your sensitivity and how your are able to cooperate with it.
You seem to know that mescaline is about emotions and being connected. That indicates to me that you just need to know how you can handle body load from mescaline.

It's also convenient to plan and prepare some food.
I recommend to start to eat at T+4h and have a coffee or tea at T+5h.

 

[Mimosaquero]

Dose depends on your sensitivity and how your are able to cooperate with it.
You seem to know that mescaline is about emotions and being connected. That indicates to me that you just need to know how you can handle body load from mescaline.

It's also convenient to plan and prepare some food.
I recommend to start to eat at T+4h and have a coffee or tea at T+5h.

any specific kinda food? something fatty, carby or protein?

 

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I personally would avoid anything fatty, it has caused me issues. Something easy to digest is probably best. But it could be very personal. I personally don't eat until T+8h, and take it in an empty stomach. You'll have to find what works best for you.

 

[doubledog]

I start with some fruit (most often apple or banana), then after my digestion restarts, continue with small piece of chocolate or few nuts. Then something more 'heavy' like bread or cheese, but again only small portion. Digestion is not in its best form.
Avoid modern industrial food, it does not taste very good. Last time, my friend ate protein bar (despite my warning) and described it as very disappointing.

I can not drink coffee on empty stomach, but caffeine is excellent addition in later stage of experience so I need to eat before ingestion.

Btw. eating simple food like fruit could create specific kind of short term rush or buzz, it's always welcomed part of (not only) my experience. It's stronger and better than similar feeling within cannabis munchies.

 

[doubledog]

I would like to add that eating is definitely more problematic on resin or on higher dose.