fraterS.O.L. said:
Can I just say that I take full responsibility for MY actions. Thats why they are my actions and not those of the community. Also, I have IV'd dmt before several times that was less than pure with NO MORE side effects than elevated heart rate and bp. All of this condescending talk seems rather judgmental. You all say its my body then state how reckless I am and how I will hurt myself when there are several reports all over of people taking this route. BESIDES ALL OF THAT THIS WAS NOT THE POINT OF THIS POST. I wanted to see if the thp worked well for extraction and since it is givin me over 1% I'd say it did the job better than I expected. In answer to your question q21 it was cold water I ran through. Just slightly under room temperature. I ran it through in font of the window unit so it was probably around 69º F. Any other questions on the PROCESS I used are welcome. Please stop worrying about the administration as I will be here to post for a long time and am sure that will come up again
ok let me mention a few things. First of all, when you say "You all", thats not a good way of starting a criticism to others opinions because we are all unique individuals who gave you unique answers, dont turn this into a 'me vs you all' problem because its not (and AFAIK there was only one person saying how you are reckless and how you will hurt yourself).
Again, I do not see 'all this condescending talk' in other posts. There was a link I showed to you about safety tips, and there was a very down to earth reply from snozz saying how HE feels and how HE would do, and kindly asking you to reconsider. Nothing condescending about that, just honest concerns. Jmaxton used the word reckless but he also said SEEMS, he didnt say it is. He had also answered about your original topic and was quit reasonable in his answer. If you still dont agree with how he said it, you can be calm and tell him what it was about his answer that bothered, but no need to get offended in any way.
As for it not being the point of the thread, forgive us but you have to understand that this is only natural to happen, for threads to go off topic specially if its to change to a subject that can be very important.
You say you take responsibility for YOUR actions but did you consider the possibility that if something happens to you while injecting dmt (get hurt, die, cops/media find out, whatever), then the whole community can get on the spotlight and it might create problems for us all? So do you really think its unreasonable that others are concerned? Maybe you havent had a problem so far, but this is no guarantee that you wont have in the future, and specially, this is no guarantee that someone else wont have a problem. You are just a name on a screen as far as we know, and behind this or another name on a screen, there may be someone acting reckless and we would like to prevent this. Just look at all our
Health and Safety section and how much we do care for safety.
Another thing you have to think about is the possible consequences to your posts. You are not just communicating to a wall, there are all sorts of people reading which you can have an influence on. When you talk about IVing as if its the simplest thing in the world, and say you have no problems at all, without any disclaimer, you are also passing an implicit message for others that it is OK for all others to IV their kitchen extracted products (without a sitter, apparently, or at least no mention of it). What if someone else that doesnt know as well, or doesnt have as much luck as you, or had a more impure product and has a very bad reaction, or hurts themselves without a sitter? Again, not only will it be horrible for this person and family (and you being co-responsible in a way), but also as I said before, it might hurt the whole community. Now, if thats not the message you want to pass, you should be explicit about it and be very clear about it.
Now another thing I want to comment on is your attitude. Maybe im misinterpreting but you seem quite confrontational in your tone, and also not very humble. For example when I pointed out the link about IV, you answered with "been there done that", which carries this "yeah yeah whatever I know better" kind of message behind it. Also using expressions such as "going strassman" are quite a weird way of expressing yourself, as well as this "me vs them" kind of arguments. Nobody is (or should be) here to pick a fight, its all intended as very honest constructive criticism, so lay off your guard and lets start talking from fellow human beings to human beings (or Nexians to Nexians
) , always hoping for the best for all. Once again, pardon for the off topic but I feel it was very necessary
