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Exp. Report A (gentle) Psilohuasca initiation

Experience report
Does anyone know if there are simple ways of converting harmane/dihydroharmane etc to harmine/harmaline/THH?
Using ordinary chemistry, no - it would be far from simple. Enzymatically, it would take a couple of the right enzymes, one to hydroxylate and one to methylate, along with the corresponding feedstocks and cofactors - again, not wholly trivial.


Harmalas not only in that one, but apparently also in Hippophae rhamnoides, E. angustifolia, E. multiflora, and E. argentea.

The beta-carbolines found in those are harmane, dihydroharmane, tetrahydroharmane (not tetrahydroharmine, not THH!) and a few more in low amounts. The total amount of harmalas was under 0.3% for H. rhamnoides, less for the other ones.
I've tried my own H. rhamnoides bark tea and if anything it diminished the effects of psiloc(yb)in. The cold-brewed fresh branch bark is really nice though.

Distribution of fluorescence in this plant is quite fascinating. It shows up in the heartwood and links up with the bark/cambium through the twigs.
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Using ordinary chemistry, no - it would be far from simple. Enzymatically, it would take a couple of the right enzymes, one to hydroxylate and one to methylate, along with the corresponding feedstocks and cofactors - again, not wholly trivial.



I've tried my own H. rhamnoides bark tea and if anything it diminished the effects of psiloc(yb)in. The cold-brewed fresh branch bark is really nice though.

Distribution of fluorescence in this plant is quite fascinating. It shows up in the heartwood and links up with the bark/cambium through the twigs.
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Thanks for the input @Transform. I figured someone here would know :)

Interesting that your tea seemed to diminish the effects of psilocybin. With the Elaeagnus, I can say for certain there was no diminishment, and if it did not outright potentiate it, it certainly seemed to synergize with it in an interesting way.
 
Sounds like a deep and profound experience. Psilohuasca isn't something I've had before, despite having everything I need available to me. Would be interested to hear of any future experiences with harmala containing plants like rue or caapi.
 
1 gram OJ Tek [Ps. Tampanensis + Ps. Subtropicalis + Ps. Cubensis var Enigma] primed with 3 droppers of Elaeagnus Umbellata (Autumn Olive/Akigumi) bark tincture

Okay, so right out the gate, I have some confounding variables to address, in that this is my first OJ Tek experience above a microdosing threshold, so, I can't be totally certain on the influence of the Akigumi bark tincture, but I do believe that it potentiated the experience, as this was qualitatively different enough from any other mushroom experience I've had, to expect there was some real synergy at work. I can't speak to the absolute potency of the tincture in terms of milligrams or grams of beta carbolines present, but as I've been working with it for several weeks now, there is definitely something to it. The intensity of the experience that followed is also a point in its favor, but it may just be the magic of OJ Tek at work.

A stormy night in the backwoods to set the stage. House is smudged and in good order, bed is comfy, lightning ricochets across the cloudscape after the storm has largely passed, and fireflies flicker amongst the trees.

One fresh squeezed orange, a small knob of grated Ginger, and a dash of grated nutmeg plus the above mentioned gram of sacrament constitute tonight's draught, consumed by candlelight with intent for healing, about a half an hour after taking three droppers of Akigumi bark tincture. The beauty of OJ is the quick come up, and near total conversion of psilocybin to psilocin, so the experience is very clean and bright, and shorter in duration than most other methods of preparation, including lemon tek.

The akigumi basically obliterates any anxiety or preflight jitters, so I'm just chilling in bed in silent darkness waiting for the come up. Visions begin to coalesce. Small wax doll like figures of bird people engaged in tasks of mundane life in vivid color are the first indications of the medicine taking hold. A brilliantly colored feline entity with stripes of gold and purple and green whose face is melting into its own open maw invites me deeper into the space.

I enter it's open mouth and pass through into the space of vision. Thousands of snakes drifting like multicolored streamers in a graceful dance of synchrony move before me. There are senses of lashing tongues and some energies of vague darkness on the periphery, these are aspects of my own energy that I recognize, and that I'm grateful to the medicine for illustrating to me. Moving deeper into the vision, a lot begins to happen...

Of course the visions are impossible to describe, but they have the living, brilliantly multicolored fractal geometry I associate with ayahuasca, yet they are simultaneously impossibly refined and delicate, repeating ad infinitum into a vast sense of space I find myself in the center of. Waves of illumination and impossible color seamlessly interweave throughout the delicate, intricate imagery.

At times I feel myself to be underwater, as the visions feel so alive, organic, and biological. At times I am confronted by vast evolving architectures of flashingly iridescent embodied geometry beings interwoven with the deepest blues and purples and reds, that thrum with an energy of life and vitality, as they evolve and coalesce and disintegrate from within each other. Words fail of course.

I find myself streaming towards what can only be described as a vast and hyperreal alien architecture, there is a sense of light, and presence moving on the periphery, as I stream towards a place of unspeakable intricacy that reminds me of a space station replete with multitudinous sensory input receivers. They perceive me, I perceive them, there is no sense of malice, only a sense of recognition amidst the profound experience of otherness. I engage in communication with, what? The spirit of the mushroom? The alien within? It's hard to say, but I ask questions, and receive clear answers.

There was more, much more, but lost to the ineffable. Lost to the inadequacy of language to express.

I only felt the faintest twinges of anxiety, despite the vividness and relative intensity of the experience, to which I credit the akigumi.

I have had some significant experiences with a gram in the past, but nothing like this. I am generally pretty sensitive to most medicines, but the quality of this experience definitely makes me interested to explore further.

Smooth landing, with some body twitches on the come down, which is something I experience occasionally with mushrooms, especially as they work their way through my digestive system. These twitches always feel like they are healing and beneficial for the enteric nervous system.

I sang some prayer songs to give thanks and close the simple ceremony.

All in all, it was an outstanding experience, and one that I would like to repeat at a slightly higher dosage when the time is right.

All bless
yay you tried it!
 
Sounds like a deep and profound experience. Psilohuasca isn't something I've had before, despite having everything I need available to me. Would be interested to hear of any future experiences with harmala containing plants like rue or caapi.
Thanks. It was a surprisingly deep one. Really beautiful and a lot of things moving. I was inspired by @Flufferus saying:

I 💗 PSILOHUASCA

I think I want that on a T-shirt 🤔

Maybe you can give it a whirl. I'm glad I started low, because it was pretty wild tbh. Reminded me a lot of a high dose ayahuasca session, but more visual (if that's possible) and less personally emotional. I've had any number of mushroom experiences over the years, but this one definitely stands out as being a special one.
 
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Thanks to you! You inspired me :)
the enigma probably is what fueled this trips potency :)

you will be even more amazed in higher doses. be safe and have alot of visual fun :) H A P P Y T R A i L S !

i reccomend anyone reading this to try psilohuasca atleast once! even if a low dose! its a real gem of an experience
 
@taita, you've mixed in multiple mushroom species and some nutmeg and did an oj tek for the first time alongside combining the mushrooms with the elaeagnus. I personally wouldn't be sure if the elaeagnus really potentiated the mushrooms or the other factors made it feel stronger. Controlled experiments are the only way to be sure of results when testing a specific novelty. And for me it's the first time I've seen elaeagnus combined with mushrooms, and also the name psilohuasca being applied to this combination. Using rue or caapi instead of elaeagnus will change the experience dramatically, both qualitatively and in intensity.

You may appreciate the spirit of your elaeagnus and even prefer it to the other beta carboline plants despite the fact that it likely doesn't offer potentiation, and that's great.
 
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I recommend anyone reading this to try psilohuasca at least once! even if a low dose! its a real gem of an experience
For me I'd like to first grow some mushrooms, then try some Lemon TEK Microdoses, then combine those with harmalas, before moving on to any bigger doses, I'm honestly interested to see if there are any noticable health benefits.
 
@taita, you've mixed in multiple mushroom species and some nutmeg and did an oj tek for the first time alongside combining the mushrooms with the elaeagnus. I personally wouldn't be sure if the elaeagnus really potentiated the mushrooms or the other factors made it feel stronger. Controlled experiments are the only way to be sure of results when testing a specific novelty. And for me it's the first time I've seen elaeagnus combined with mushrooms, and also the name psilohuasca being applied to this combination. Using rue or caapi instead of elaeagnus will change the experience dramatically, both qualitatively and in intensity.

You may appreciate the spirit of your elaeagnus and even prefer it to the other beta carboline plants despite the fact that it likely doesn't offer potentiation, and that's great.
Oh I 100% agree. As mentioned in the OP there are plenty of confounding variables here. Guess I'll just have to keep experimenting!

Previously I had taken close to a gram (maybe 800 mg) of this same blend of species in a lemon Tek with, I would say, only about ⅛ of the intensity. Now it's certainly possible that that extra 200 mg + OJ Tek made all the difference (the amount of nutmeg was minute, really just for flavor - but I suppose it could have made a difference as well), but the qualitative differences in the character of the experience and the noticeable increase in intensity definitely felt "different."

Another point against potentiation is that the experience wasn't much longer than expected, maybe an extra 20% longer, tops.

IDK. The Elaeagnus tincture is definitely doing something on its own, and even if it's not a true potentiator, it's a really lovely synergy, imo.

Time will tell, I guess :)
 
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