Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

[Arczilla]

Hello Nexians!

I have been scanning my surrounding for a usable sample of acacia Karoo, I am choosing this sp as it is literally every second tree in my area, this tree is all over the place and I cannot find much info regarding this sp and its activity.

This is my final specimen but before I proceed I'd like the opinions from the community. Can anyone confirm that it is indeed a. karoo? I have seen two variations of this tree around, some have white long thorns and the some don't. By what I am noticing I think its due the age difference (young trees have thorns and older ones don't)

Peace

 

[halfhead]

Lovely find! Some of those pictures are great. I would have said obtusifolia based on the 'veins' in the phyllodes. Rough and in all directions. A great find! I'll be going searching for some this coming week should be fun!

And I completely agree with dr Sway. Too many fools will destroy the beautiful trees!

 

[halfhead]

Did you get any photos of the seed pods and seeds?

 

[Earthwalker]

Did you get any photos of the seed pods and seeds?

Pretty shaw he ain't gunna answer you about the seed pods bro , this was 2010 !

 

[DreaMTripper]

Fantastic pictures of a beautiful tree! If anyones reading this please have a heart and dont brutalise the trunk or roots and threaten the species even more just prune a branch the % is more than good enough to extract.
Ask yourself do you really want to contribute to a species downfall for your own curiosity?...

 

[AlwaysSearching]

Hi Everyone,

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I have a few Acacias and am hoping to get an opinion from yourselves. Shame its not flowering time to make this easier. I do recall seeing these tree flower classic yellow blooms.

Any ideas what I have here? Im in South East QLD. Im very green with ID's but it could be :

Acacia falcata
Acacia longifolia
Acacia auriculiformis

Would certainly prefer to get your opinion before unnecessarily pruning and going to the trouble of a fruitless preparation.

Many thanks,
Matt

 

[DreaMTripper]

Hi Everyone,

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I have a few Acacias and am hoping to get an opinion from yourselves. Shame its not flowering time to make this easier. I do recall seeing these tree flower classic yellow blooms.

Any ideas what I have here? Im in South East QLD. Im very green with ID's but it could be :

Acacia falcata
Acacia longifolia
Acacia auriculiformis

Would certainly prefer to get your opinion before unnecessarily pruning and going to the trouble of a fruitless preparation.

Many thanks,
Matt

Ive got a similar picture but im fairly sure yours isnt a.longifolia they dont have curves phyllodes iirc...im leaning towards melanoxylon for both Acacia melanoxylon - WATTLE
but I must say yours looks a good tyryptamine candidate its those red margins that a few active species have in common.
Yours actually looks like it has some obtsusifolia characteristics with serated edges and blunt tips.

 

[:)]

Hey guys hoping for an id on some acacias from southern vietnam. My friend says this about them, im not entirely sure on i.d's

First lot possible acacia Angustissima

The big trees I reckon are either the Acacia Auriculiformis, Acacia Longfolia or the acacia Mangium or even the Acacia Maidenii

The small one could be Acacia Seyal, Acacia Nilotica, Acacia Constricta, Acacia Concinna or Acacia Farnesiana.

 

[lemmy]

I hope It's okay to post a thread of another forum here.

If not, sorry mods, please delete.

Here is a link to more of these pics on the shroomery.

Various Acacia (I think) ID's - The Ethnobotanical Garden - Shroomery Message Board

Hello all! I have found what I think are a few Acacias, I'm hoping to get a positive ID on them. These were taken in south Vietnam.

www.shroomery.org

 

[--Shadow]

There is actually a very simple classification system for the identification of plants. The system uses botanical Latin names.

All plants are identified according to a binomial system (--bi meaning two, --nom meaning
name). So all plants have two names - the genus and the species. So Acacia Acuminata, -genus=Acacia -species-Acuminata

The way we identify people using names is using a Family name (genus) and a Given name (species). The genus name is to identify you generically, and the species name identifies you specifically.

When we come across two people of the same family (genus) and given name (species), we cannot use the same name to identify them, as they look slightly different from each other. Where we would use nickname to identify one from the other (Margaret, Margie, Marg, Maggy etc), with plants we use variety (var.)

The variety (var.) is a subgroup name in which the plant differs only slightly from the species. In Latin, the notation ".var" follows the genus and species. eg Acacia confusa var. inamurai

A subspecies cannot be recognized in isolation. The subspecies classification ( "subsp." or "ssp." ) is either a taxonomic rank subordinate to species, or a taxonomic unit in that rank. A species will either be recognized as having no subspecies at all or two or more (including any that are extinct), never just one.

Some of the more common Latin names included in the species name are:

--carpa
--oides
--phylla
--folia
--neura

--carpa in Latin means "fruit"
--oides or --odes means "like" or "in the form of"
--folia is plural for "Folium", which means "a thin leaflike stratum or layer". The geometric meaning is "part of a curve terminated at both ends by the same node"
--neura refers to nerves, meaning "lines or veins"

Each Latin botanical name is actually a fascinating puzzle that can tell you a great deal about the plant and how it is identified.

A. Longifolia ( Longi=long, folia=leaves)
A. Deuteroneura (Deutero=second, neura=veins)
A. Retinodes ( Rhetine=Greek for 'resin of the pine’, oides=like.

 

[--Shadow]

Came across these on my bushwalk in NSW today. I'm optimistic about these red branches. Can anyone ID?
- No pods present.
- Racemes have 9 buds on each globular head
- Stipules present

Pretty sure it's one of the following:

A. alaticaulis
A. kulnurensis (leaning towards this)
A. terminalis
OR
A. pubescens

 

[--Shadow]

Also living with them... A. linifolia

- Again, no pods present
- phyllodes are 2mm wide, 3-4.5cm long

 

[DreaMTripper]

Hi Everyone,

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I have a few Acacias and am hoping to get an opinion from yourselves. Shame its not flowering time to make this easier. I do recall seeing these tree flower classic yellow blooms.

Any ideas what I have here? Im in South East QLD. Im very green with ID's but it could be :

Acacia falcata
Acacia longifolia
Acacia auriculiformis

Would certainly prefer to get your opinion before unnecessarily pruning and going to the trouble of a fruitless preparation.

Many thanks,
Matt

The 6th photo down looks a good candidate for a.obtusifolia ...

a.obtusifolia Prune cleanly and mindfully no need to take root bark or trunk bark phyllodes have good content percentage.

 

[nen888]

^..there are several photos in the acacia info thread showing that species dead a year or two after bark has been taken
..it is not a good thing to do..
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--Shadow i'd say you have A. terminalis..
.


and lastly new members can post in this thread

there has been a spate of ID question threads that should be directed here

.

 

[lemmy]

Hey guys hoping for an id on some acacias from southern vietnam. My friend says this about them, im not entirely sure on i.d's

First lot possible acacia Angustissima

The big trees I reckon are either the Acacia Auriculiformis, Acacia Longfolia or the acacia Mangium or even the Acacia Maidenii

The small one could be Acacia Seyal, Acacia Nilotica, Acacia Constricta, Acacia Concinna or Acacia Farnesiana.

I'm 99% sure the first two are Mimosa Pigra.

I suppose there is only one way to find out how active it is.

 

[EvilSparx]

I'm looking to identify these two species of acacia, found in coastal NSW, Australia, and help would be appreciated.

The one on the left, with the smaller, longer flowers, I believe might be Maidenii, the other one, with the shorter stubbier flowers, I have no idea.

Picture of the truck/bark

 

[EvilSparx]

First of all, I am aware there is a thread for this, but no one seems to be answering my post, so here are some pictures of Acacias that I have found in Coastal, NSW, Australia.
It is Autumn here, so there is not much hope for flowers to help me identify them, but I'm looking for Maidenii and Obtusifolia. I can only seem to find Longifolia's at the moment, and a previous extraction of that yielded nothing.

I know it's a bit of a longshot to correctly identify them, but if anyone has any insight about what sort of species they could be, or better yet, if someone living in NSW could send a picture of the plant that they use, that would be very appreciated.
Thanks.

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[nen888]

^..the left-hand one in post#625 is probably A. floribunda,
(1) and (2) in the above post is A.complanata..
all the others, as they are beginning to flower, are apparently forms of A. longifolia..
some forms of A. longifolia are high alkaloid..see Trying to improve Acacia information - Collaborative Research Project - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[EvilSparx]

After finding information from a local council website, they stated a certain kind of forest on a certain street had a variety of trees and shrubs, one of which was Acacia Obtusifolia shrubs from 1-1.5 m tall. I went to the exact location, and did find some Acacia Shrubs, which I do think are Obtusifolia. I know I've posted here a lot, but this information is quite valuable for others as well.

The young leaves are lighter in colour at the tips, on the verge of red.

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[Ethnopiate]

Whoops! Newb error, posted new topic rather than replied.
Here it is in the correct forum! Sorry!
Hi all!
A pleasure to finally be here and posting rather than lurking and soaking up all the amazing information you guys and gals provide!
Being in the West poses it's own unique challenges and I was hoping some enlightened souls could assist with some ID and advice.
I am not really interested in root or tree bark, due to sustainability plus twigs and phylodes seem to be quite acceptable and sustainable when dealing with acuminata, taking root bark or trunk bark does not sit well with me unless the tree has fallen. I do not believe in taking from the Earth with any permanence and have already planted 16 acuminata seedlings, but they will take over 5 years until they are ready for any form of effective use, as I understand it. Seedlings in 50mm pots are only $1.30 from a nursery in our northern suburbs.
My 4 attempted extracts failed due to either a) wrong type of material or age of tree b) the wrong tek for acuminata (I have tried STB and A/B (LexTek and Lazymans)) with no success. I can buy said molecule, but I refuse as I firmly do not believe in it being used as a tool for income as well as not wishing to sully it's already negative image with the public, plus it would kick my ass no doubt as punishment!
So, my questions; I see many many acacia's along our freeways here in WA and some others at random locations around the suburbs and I have included a couple of pictures that may assist. From most reports I have read, one has to travel a good 2-3hrs out of the city to find the right species but, seeing what I have seen recently, I believe acuminata has been used quite extensively as a tool for nitrogen fixing of overworked soils, as erosion stabilisation on embankments and as a general re population tool for native scrub lands.
I have read page upon page of information and in the end I think I just have to ask the question, post some pics and hopefully be able to pass on the knowledge to others.
The first 2 pictures are of a younger tree, still greenish in skin colour, planted amongst eucalyptus. The last 2 are of an older tree but def not acuminata as it doesn't have the curved "hooks" at the tips of the phylodes common to that species and is JUST starting to flower. The final picture is of some resin I found on one of the trees. Would adding this to the brew prior to acidification be a good idea or would the resin/sap be pretty much alkaloid free? My gut tells me it out to be saturated, but with a lot of fats as well...
Many thanks, I hope I can help fellow Sandgropers in their quests!
Peace to all and thank you for your time. :thumb_up: