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Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

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Found this the other day, in South Aus. Help would be appreciated :)
 

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Hi friends :)

I planted these around our property a few years ago (NSW Australia) and would like an identification if possible. These girls have begun spreading around the garden so I'll plant them out in their own happy spots before they take over the place too much :)

Thank you in advance. I will pay forward any help recieved :thumb_up:

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Exogenesis, your tree appears to be A. Floribunda.. would be good to see some close up shots.. phyllodes of this species are perfectly useable for alkaloids. trees can be variable depending on the area they occur..could be a ph/soil thing. needs more research
 
In addition to the above pics and ID request, I believe that we've got ourselves Acacia Fimbriata. A brilliant screening plant and flowers into small puffball type wattles. It's beautiful. Will repost when in flower.

Edit: Thanks Acacian! Nice timing :)

The first suggestion was indeed Floribunda, if not then Fimbriata. After looking at some pics, the puffball flowering seemed the pic of the bunch.

I am happy to take further pics as reference. Can take anything at all down to about 5x magnification with macro.
 
Exogenesis said:
In addition to the above pics and ID request, I believe that we've got ourselves Acacia Fimbriata. A brilliant screening plant and flowers into small puffball type wattles. It's beautiful. Will repost when in flower.

Edit: Thanks Acacian! Nice timing :)

The first suggestion was indeed Floribunda, if not then Fimbriata. After looking at some pics, the puffball flowering seemed the pic of the bunch.

I am happy to take further pics as reference. Can take anything at all down to about 5x magnification with macro.
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It's definitely A.Floribunda. I've had some success with them over the years based on seasonal variation. From memory I think the best time was around September/October. I've had a combination of a nice orange goo to some orange waxy crystals from broken branch bark, phyllodes and twigs. I did have to use a fair bit of starting material to achieve the crystals. Something like 300g material converted to ~0.8-1g of oily/wax/crystal. The main difference I see between this Flori and the one I extracted from is the lack of red tips on the phyllodes.
 
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It's definitely A.Floribunda. I've had some success with them over the years based on seasonal variation. From memory I think the best time was around September/October. I've had a combination of a nice orange goo to some orange waxy crystals from broken branch bark, phyllodes and twigs. I did have to use a fair bit of starting material to achieve the crystals. Something like 300g material converted to ~0.8-1g of oily/wax/crystal. The main difference I see between this Flori and the one I extracted from is the lack of red tips on the phyllodes.
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Thanks Tryptallmine.

I've got red tips starting on one of them now. A much more mature Acacia than the ones posted as well, moreso in size than age.

I also have some pruned branches from September/October that have been roasting outside. The bark is beginning to crack and fold. Worth consideration?
 
Exogenesis said:
Tryptallmine said:
It's definitely A.Floribunda. I've had some success with them over the years based on seasonal variation. From memory I think the best time was around September/October. I've had a combination of a nice orange goo to some orange waxy crystals from broken branch bark, phyllodes and twigs. I did have to use a fair bit of starting material to achieve the crystals. Something like 300g material converted to ~0.8-1g of oily/wax/crystal. The main difference I see between this Flori and the one I extracted from is the lack of red tips on the phyllodes.
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Thanks Tryptallmine.

I've got red tips starting on one of them now. A much more mature Acacia than the ones posted as well, moreso in size than age.

I also have some pruned branches from September/October that have been roasting outside. The bark is beginning to crack and fold. Worth consideration?
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Sounds like a good candidate for an extraction. Off cuts, twigs, phyllodes are perfectly fine for extraction you'll just need more base material. I think ~0.4-0.5% is probably expected with the A.Floribunda - this is purely subjective on personal notes. Best of luck with it.
 
Hi,

Can anyone help me to identify this plant ? is it Acacia or Mimosa?

Thank you a lot,
 

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I am looking to find the exact species this is I'm in South South Texas thanks all i know its some type of Acacia
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Just some updated pics also i will be doing a TLC test as soon as u can and will share results and whean summer comes the pods should be coming in so in the next few months ill post tbe pics so we can 100% identify this beauty.

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as with most acacias, mature pods are required for a proper formal ID...that would very quickly sort out if it's A. farnesiana (Vachellia farnesiana) which it is like, but there are a couple of other candidates in the A. constricta group in Texas which are similar...pods will save a lot of counting and measuring pinnae etc..

also there is the Acacia Identification Thread to avoid clutter
 
Worst case scenario I'll just have to wait until summer so spring is here and like I said I already peeled the bark so it will be nice and dry by the time summer hits and hopefully i will see nice snap pea like pods.

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marz, you don't need to go peeling bark from the tree's trunk to test it for alkaloids. i'd advise pruning either pruning some small twigs or a branch here and there as they will contain the alkaloids in the same amounts by weight if the tree does indeed contain alkaloids. its likely too that the phyllodes will. its pretty safe to say that any acacia that contains alkaloids will contain them in the bark on the twigs and branches. taking the bark from the trunk puts alot of unnecessary stress on the plant
 
Ok I'm not going to be messing with the tree anymore until the pods come in I only cut a smaller Branch off to have a decent amount of material to work with and like you say I don't want to cause unnecessary stress to the tree anymore than I already have.
 
I have some exciting news I was walking down the path where I found all these trees I needed identified I think I finally solved the mystery I came by once small small one and miraculously there was a really old pod it had a few holes I guess bugs have got in there and this is what it looks like I really do believe it is what we previously thought (acacia farnesiana) here are the pics I took all the seeds out also and there was some mold and holes in the seeds there looks like there is a few viable seeds anyways heres the pics tell me what u think mystery solved / 100% identified???


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Sooo did i solve the Scooby Doo Mystery and found the 5meo monster?
 
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