Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

[lemmy]

lemmy, i'm pretty sure your tree is acacia mangium

Acacian, I'm guessing that you are talking about the second tree that I posted as I thought it could have been Acacia Mangium too, however, I see that Acacia Mangium has blunter leaf tips than the ones in the picture that I posted, also judging from pictures I've looked at online, the Mangium looks to have more veins running through it too.

Could it be a cross/hybrid????

Does anyone know about possible crosses of A Mangium and A Auriculiformis?

I'm asking because most of the Acacias I'm finding have many similarities too both trees.

I have roughly 50 grams of dried Acacia flowers from the tree in my first picture (which I'm guessing is A Auriculiformis) which I am intending to do an extraction on. I know A Auriculiformis has had 5MEO found in the stem bark so I'd like to know if the flowers contain anything.

 

[DELETED_USER00002]

So firstly I'll apologise for reposting a few of the pics as I have already posted a thread in the other section of the forum but I would like to compile them into one post and keep them in the proper forum

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'Acacia Longifolia Var. Sophorae'
Location: South East Melbourne towards Mornington, very close to the ocean (~approx 500m)
Date: Mid November
Notes/Description: This shrub is low to the ground growing to approx 2-3m in height and spreading 2-3m in all directions, Foliage is tough and mostly straight, growing to approx 5-10cm in length and ~3cm wide, young shoots are green to lime-green colour tipped and older foliage is dark green going to red/purple on the edges and in the veins.

Possible 'Acacia Melanoxylon'
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Date: Late November
Notes/Description: This small shrub has notably wide leaves and curve a bit, rounded at the end...not much to mention about this, it's only a foot high, most likely a dropped seed, I would have to revisit this when it starts floweing if it is mature enough

some kind of 'Acacia Floribunda' or variation/hyrid
Location: Melbourne
Date: Late November
Notes/Description: Bush approximately 2-3m tall with Thin and widely spaced out foliage approx 1cm wide, 10cm long with large pods on branches, I didn't think to grab some of the seed pics for photos as my mind was elsewhere, I will revisit this when it flowers and get some more pics

Unknown Acacia #3
Location: Northern Melbourne
Date: Late November
Notes/Description:Young tree, mostly upright with very long and thin foliage approx 1cm wide and 20cm in length, spotted on a stroll, will have to return once flowering

ID: Agonis flexuosa (common names:Western Australian peppermint, Swan River peppermint or peppermint
Location: Melbourne
Date: Late November
Notes/Description: (I recently discovered this to be the Peppermint Tree, I have no idea on any potential alkaloids but if anyone knows let me know)This Huge tree has been growing near my family home since before I can remember, I only thought about it since I was only recently so obsessed with finding acacias and I remember swinging on it's long weeping branches when I was a kid! haha. Quite a large tree with fiberous bark growing to maybe 10-15 meters and foliage is all weeping down on very long limbs It has small narrow leaves 1-2cm wide and approx 5-10cm long, currently in flower as can be seen by the pics.

There will be heaps more to come!

 

[DELETED_USER00002]

Continuing on my rampage I have been in touch with nature a bit more, everywhere I look I see acacia:shock:

Unknown acacia #4
Location: Melbourne
Date: Late November
Notes/Description: Only a young tree, won't be touching this one but still quite curious to its name but could be a bit difficult as its only a few feet tall and void of any juvenile growth or flowers.

Unknown acacia #5 (pycnantha or maybe Implexa?)
Location: Melbourne
Date: Late November
Notes/Description: Tall (5m+?), rough bark, With sparse growth, very twiggy, somewhat brittle. Single pale yellow flowers, spiralled seed pods but not very long maybe ~10cm

Unknown acacia #6
Location: Melbourne
Date: Late November
Notes/Description: Very tall tree, looks to be 10-15m tall with cascading foliage. Some of the phyllodes had the small leaves on their tips, many fresh seed pods so I must have just missed the flowering which would have been early spring, so unfortunately can get a description until next year does this hint to any particular species?? Very long seed pods (15+cm) this one I have a good feeling about

 

[DELETED_USER00002]

Last one today I promise!

definitely looks like Implexa from my googling

 

[quynh ice]

Hey guys,
Next week I will try to extract DMT from acacia auriculiformis in leaf and root bark,I work in a wood chip company,many root bark must remove before we make woodchip for our customer,pray it contain MEO DMT in it...I will post my extract for you.
My plan now is extract Scopolamine from Datura metel,last week I've extracted some ankaloid in Datura metel by A/B and chilled it with my friend,so funny...

 

[DELETED_USER00002]

anyone able to identify these trees? forum is a bit quiet as of late

 

[DreaMTripper]

So firstly I'll apologise for reposting a few of the pics as I have already posted a thread in the other section of the forum but I would like to compile them into one post and keep them in the proper forum

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First up I have a possible 'Acacia Longifolia Var. Sophorae' Correct (or acacia sophorae)
Location: South East Melbourne towards Mornington, very close to the ocean (~approx 500m)
Date: Mid November



Unknown Acacia #1 Possibly a.melanoxylon
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Date: Late November
Notes/Description: This small shrub has notably wide leaves and curve a bit, rounded at the end...not much to mention about this, it's only a foot high, most likely a dropped seed, I would have to revisit this when it starts floweing if it is mature enough

Unknown Acacia #2 a.floribunda variation possibly a hybrid..
Location: Melbourne
Date: Late November
Notes/Description: Bush approximately 2-3m tall with Thin and widely spaced out foliage approx 1cm wide, 10cm long with large pods on branches, I didn't think to grab some of the seed pics for photos as my mind was elsewhere

 

[DreaMTripper]

Last one today I promise!

definitely looks like Implexa from my googling

No doubt at all, a.implexa is easy to identify by its very rough bark no other acacia in Vic Ive seen has such rough bark, this tree needs researching spidey senses tell me it has lessons for us..phyllodes are plentiful on most adult trees.

Its oodgood to see someone actually attempt to identify them via research rather than just spamming the thread and hoping for the best keep up the good work.

 

[DELETED_USER00002]

I have been observing quite a lot and have identified similar trees in my area. Hopefully I get some more IDs back from the other trees

 

[Koornut]

@Astro
Your unknown acacia #1 is most certainly a juvenile Melanoxylon, those smaller bi-pinnate leaves are a dead ringer for mela. Even on the larger trees most new growth begins with bi-pinnate leaves, this is typical of Melanoxylon (and they are everywhere )
One of of the less examined acacias for tryptamines, but the wood sounds spectacular as a six stringed instrument.

 

[DELETED_USER00002]

Thankyou DreaMTripper for clearing up a few of the IDs, I'll adjust my post accordingly.

I look forward to making a much more reliable and legible thread that makes identification much easier, I have some ideas to do this, I'll come up with something that might be worthy of a sticky

 

[DELETED_USER00002]

I have another one that is currently in flower that I have noticed along the freeways and out in bushier areas, most of the ones I have seen seem to be up to 5m tall and spreading in all directions, thin branches and speckled with singular ball flowers. Phyllodes are thin and short (under 10cm) and evenly spaced along the branches, slight curve to them but generally erect and pointing in all directions rather than weeping and a single vein in the centre of leaves

 

[pogpiglet]

Acacia deanei subsp. deanei?, or maybe Acacia Pruinosa?

Acacia Excelsa?

Both found in white cypress pine communities on level sandy/calcareous soils in the northern tablelands of NSW.

 

[Psilosopher?]

I found this beautiful specimen that has been ravaged by some thoughtless and careless people. Could I get an ID on this?

 

[DELETED_USER00002]

Any ideas on my last couple of trees? I'm very interested to know thx

 

[DreaMTripper]

Obtuse bodhi, possibly a.saligna Astro Image Gallery

 

[nen888]

that's pretty mild damage relatively speaking Bodhisativa to some of what i've seen with that poor species..

it's basically why i've stopped all IDs and most net-acacia posting while i try to do things in their aid, and to bring about the demise of those responsible..and i'm serious about that..

 

[Psilosopher?]

that's pretty mild damage relatively speaking Bodhisativa to some of what i've seen with that poor species..

it's basically why i've stopped all IDs and most net-acacia posting while i try to do things in their aid, and to bring about the demise of those responsible..and i'm serious about that..

Is there anything I can do to help this particular tree? I was thinking of pruning the damaged parts, so water doesn't escape via evaporation.

 

[DELETED_USER00002]

No point pruning, the tree will heal itself and form a callus over the wound in time or die back, no point cutting back something if it will still survive.

 

[humbletraveller]

Hi guys,

I lived in Indonesia for a while where I have found several species of Acacia.
My wife is on Bali at the moment and took some nice pictures.
I'm not intending to harvest from those trees once identificated but more interested in identification as we own a nice piece of land in Sumatra where we would be able to grow a few trees from the seeds.
Your help is much appreciated.