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Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

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hello qwer,

since its your national tree is there not some kind of tree ID'ing book you could buy. You know the kind, one that shows all the types of acacia and the things which define each acacia variant.

a book like this must exist somewhere, If some one could find it we could PDF it and have it available on the Nexus.
 
..brickie..the top photo in post#91 (p5) is A. complanata..then perhaps a form of floribunda, and the top one of #92 is, i think, the quite rare A. orites..then melanoxylon, and maybe saligna (still looking at this one)..but, as i said, there's some rare endemics in New England (aus), so i'll need to look specifically at that region..

WarriorSage #104 (p6) ..1 is A. baileyana, 2 i think floribunda, 3 melanoxylon, 4 looks like A. paradoxa (which is worth investigation), 5 can't tell..

spacechick #110 (p6) - seems to be A. terminalis, a very pretty tree well worth a look at..:)

sorry took so long..nice photos all..few more IDs to go yet..
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thanks for the i.d's nen much appreciated :) i am thinking the top photo in post #91 isn't complanata though as that tree has only one central vein on the phyllodes and had rod shaped flowers rather than the balls .. maybe its a variant of some sort? just uploading some pics of the suspected mucronata.. would appreciate confirmation :)
 
below are suspected acacia mucronata var. longifolia... i didn't manage to get any photos of the tree unfortunately so these ones are just of some branches i took home with me.... as you can see the phyllodes have already started drying out but should still be pretty good for i.d i hope.. also the flowers in the photos look more yellow than they actually are.. theyre a more creamy white

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bricklaya wrote:
i am thinking the top photo in post #91 isn't complanata though as that tree has only one central vein on the phyllodes and had rod shaped flowers rather than the balls
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..ok, didn't notice the flowers..(you're getting pretty good at the wattle ID brickie i must say :)
)..in that case you're onto something interesting..will check through section Juliflorae.. in the new england region there are at least a dozen species confined to single locations (e.g. like just around one waterfall!), partly a result of land clearing, but also showing the micro-climate tendencies of the pre-european australian environment..

and that does look like mucronata var. longifolia, although some sub-varieties of it have paler cream flowers (like the one tested by endlessness, which had slightly narrower phyllodes)
really looking forward to results..bear in mind none of the test samples of any species i sent were from flowering plants..
 
yeah the flowers looked a bit wierd in the photos and kind of went darker as they dried... when they were fresh on the tree they looked a lot more pale white. i'd like to go back there soon to take some photos as the longifolias there are absolutely stunning!... so il grab a few shots of the mucronatas while im at it :)
 
Hey guys,

I tried to ID the below as A. Longissima due to location.. just inland of goldcoast.
Two things throw me off 1) slight curve at base of phyllode. 2) length of some phyllodes reach *30cm*.

Gland is tiny and hard to see. Phyllodes are floppy and tips get extremely thin.

Is there any acacia with phyllodes that long?
 

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i don't think so, every longissima i've seen has more uniform phyllode widths (from base to tip the width stays kind of the same) and look closer to classic floribunda shape, i don't know the word but yours look more 'pointy'.

always easier to id and and kinder to photograph the tree itself rather than busting branches before knowing what it is :)

peace
 
Agree with what seldom said, phyllodes of longissima are linear like floribunda but much longer.
A photo of the whole tree (known as a trees "habit" aka size, way is grows etc.) is probably a must for ID photo's. And kinder to the tree as Seldom said.
Point of the habit comment is in my experience longissima rarely gets larger than 3 - 4 meters.

The acacia in your post could be many different species sorry, how old / large was it?

Spice Sailor
 
Spice Sailor said:
Agree with what seldom said, phyllodes of longissima are linear like floribunda but much longer.
A photo of the whole tree (known as a trees "habit" aka size, way is grows etc.) is probably a must for ID photo's. And kinder to the tree as Seldom said.
Point of the habit comment is in my experience longissima rarely gets larger than 3 - 4 meters.

The acacia in your post could be many different species sorry, how old / large was it?

Spice Sailor
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Thanks Sailor, Seldom. Shrub was around 2 mtrs and young. was part of land clearing for new property development that I have been hawking. I might just wait till Maidenii is in flower for easier ID and save myself running around with no avail :)
 
Good idea Borris in the last week or so I have noticed some maidenii's around our area that still have the flower "spikes" on them. The individual flowers are gone but many have newly developing, twisted pods coming off the old flower "spike".
Just some thing to keep an eye out for in the next few weeks to keep you busy.

And in the past I have come accross some floribundas deep in the Gold Coast hinterland that should be in flower, or just about, at this time of the year. Never tested, just observed, keep an eye out for the paler, cream flowers.

Be well all
 
nen do you think this looks like an active style longifolia?

flowers mostly 3-4cm in length, phyllodes often twisted with slightly red "burned" looking edges, fairly light green, but darker in shaded areas..around 16cm in length.. some slightly shorter... tree was fairly erect.. flowers creamy yellow

smells amazing.. i'd really like to find a common consistent tryptamine containing longifolia ... theres something about the longifolia's aura which i really like being around. at a festival a few days ago which was held in an absolutely chocoblock longifolia area i had a really deep experience with mushrooms.. where the visions i was seeing were longifolia trees coming to life and twisting around each other in really flowing geometric structures...everytime i closed my eyes in the darkness it was there interacting with me. i usually get the same style visions of the actual mushroom itself as if it uses its image as a teacher for differen't principals like maths or geometry or whatever. was interesting how it felt like the longifolia had penetrated my experience and replaced the golden mushroom .. ever since i've really wanted to try and get some alkaloids out of it and communicate with the plant further

hope you can help! :)

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some more trees.. ;)

these are the trees in my neighborhood which I am unsure of i.d between maidenii, floribunda or perhaps a maidenii x floribunda (if such tree exists).. the flowers look much more like floribunda than the maidenii I thought, but the phyllodes seem too long to be floribunda and aren't quite as papery. overall i reckon the tree looks a lot more like floribunda than maidenii but theres a few characteristics which feel more maidenii. these trees have previously been tested with negative results

acacia no.1 ... looks more like floribunda i think but the leaves seem a bit too long

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..bricklaya..the more i look at the suspected mucronata pics, i feel the phyllodes are too wide and the flower too dense..it may be a form of longifolia..quite confusing really..see Acacia info thread for another photo of definite mucronata..it usually has pale yellow to cream flowers..and phyllodes c.5mm wide..
apologies for my perhaps premature ID..
 
bricklaya wrote:
nen do you think this looks like an active style longifolia?

flowers mostly 3-4cm in length, phyllodes often twisted with slightly red "burned" looking edges, fairly light green, but darker in shaded areas..around 16cm in length.. some slightly shorter... tree was fairly erect.. flowers creamy yellow

smells amazing.. i'd really like to find a common consistent tryptamine containing longifolia ... theres something about the longifolia's aura which i really like being around. at a festival a few days ago which was held in an absolutely chocoblock longifolia area i had a really deep experience with mushrooms.. where the visions i was seeing were longifolia trees coming to life and twisting around each other in really flowing geometric structures...everytime i closed my eyes in the darkness it was there interacting with me. i usually get the same style visions of the actual mushroom itself as if it uses its image as a teacher for differen't principals like maths or geometry or whatever. was interesting how it felt like the longifolia had penetrated my experience and replaced the golden mushroom .. ever since i've really wanted to try and get some alkaloids out of it and communicate with the plant further
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..it does look like an active style longifolia, but i've never gotten much when flowering..
that said..have you tried the leaf burning test..? are the phyllodes very bitter (a good sign) ?
endlessness' TLC kits will make quick testing easy..in the meanwhile, if a plant's got a good % then 100-200grams is enough to see if it's worth going further..
 
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