Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

[acacian]

..it does look like an active style longifolia, but i've never gotten much when flowering..
that said..have you tried the leaf burning test..? are the phyllodes very bitter (a good sign) ?
endlessness' TLC kits will make quick testing easy..in the meanwhile, if a plant's got a good % then 100-200grams is enough to see if it's worth going further..

so you have had success with longifolia in the past? i collected a few branches.. probably have around 150g dry material.. will weigh properly when i've woken up properly
yes tried the leaf burning test.. smelled interesting and reminded me a little bit of how the phleb leaves smell when they burn actually.. i guess there's an "acridness" to it which i know you said is a good sign, but I wouldn't go as far as saying I can smell any spice in the smoke. will have results up by tomorrow night .. how long do you think is a good period of time for ethanol soaks?

interesting about the mucronata too. I will go back to the site soon and take photos. do you think it could also maybe be some mucronata variant with another species? because the phyllodes seem far more erect than the longifolia and seem to have those curved ends that the regular mucronata variety has. it is growing in a longifolia dominant area though so your diagnosis wouldn't surprise me.. I will be going back to test the longifolias there too as there were a lot of differen't looking types there.. i was taken back how similar some of the longifolias looked to obtusifolia too.. same with the mucronata actually. some of the larger phyllodes looked really similar in shape and general presence.... just too narrow and erect to be obtuse

 

[acacian]

by the way theres a really funky smell underneath the branch bark on the longifolia here... smells like some hot food.. kinda like a real strong potato and leak soup.. not an unpleasant smell actually

 

[Borris]

Sorry about that.
Nen having a look at that I think your spot on the acacia leiocalyx. 0.3 tryptamines from stem bark? I'll have to have a try and let you know, though its in bloom which could adversely effect results.
Cheers

I did not see a follow up on this so I am going to do so myself since Leiocalyx + concurrens is probably the most common wattle in my area.


PS.. I'm confused with the term "stem bark". I mean, stems are too thin to remove bark easily AND too thick to coffee grind.....

Also, CSIRO survey has been great for alkaloid identification but what methods of isolation do people use for specifics?

 

[Seldom]

from a few pages back

Bricklaya wrote

i think these are a. linearifolia and a. rubida

 

[acacian]

thanks seldom any alkaloid info for those 2 species?

 

[Seldom]

any time bruddah i've never come across anything for these ones, but linearifolia is closely related to Acacia adunca, which according to one of the old csiro papers from the 60s "is a valid species though there has been
botanical confusion with other species. No record of its alkaloid content has been
found. Leaves obtained from [] in south-eastern Queensland yielded 2.4%
of a base which proved to be N-methyl-2-phenylethylamine"

 

[Gowpen]

Hey Guys and Gals,.....
what do you think is the Acacia at 25mins 45 seconds on this Youtube video called the pyramid code ?
Its 800 years old

....... makes you think
G:thumb_up:

 

[acacian]

not sure on that one...

robert bauval

 

[radmotion]

hello guy's could you please help me identify the following ( 3-4 ) Plants.

 

[nen888]

..good work Seldom!

Hey Guys and Gals,.....
what do you think is the Acacia at 25mins 45 seconds on this Youtube video called the pyramid code ?
Its 800 years old

....... makes you think
G:thumb_up:

..Acacia tortillis, mate , see acacia info thread here..

 

[Gowpen]

..good work Seldom!

Hey Guys and Gals,.....
what do you think is the Acacia at 25mins 45 seconds on this Youtube video called the pyramid code ?
Its 800 years old

....... makes you think
G:thumb_up:

..Acacia tortillis, mate , see acacia info thread here..

Thanks nen, just doing lots of homework. Isnt that the Acacia associated with Thoth ?
4th ride tonight 30mg. Getting closer and more familiar with dosage. I saw huge fractal snakes........with strange writing. Went for a second flight with 25mg 30mins after and nothing.... I will leave it a month and try again. :thumb_up:

 

[Gowpen]

..good work Seldom!

Hey Guys and Gals,.....
what do you think is the Acacia at 25mins 45 seconds on this Youtube video called the pyramid code ?
Its 800 years old

....... makes you think
G:thumb_up:

..Acacia tortillis, mate , see acacia info thread here..

Thanks nen, just doing lots of homework. Isnt that the Acacia associated with Thoth ?
4th ride tonight 30mg. Getting closer and more familiar with dosage. I saw huge fractal snakes........with strange writing. Went for a second flight with 25mg 30mins after and nothing.... I will leave it a month and try again. :thumb_up:

Look what I found

 

[Gowpen]

And this....:thumb_up:

 

[Spice Sailor]

Gowpen, this is either very coincidental or the trees are speaking to both of us. As just last week I had begun researching an Acacia with similar assumed genetics.
I think the Acacia in your photo is Acacia trachycarpa. Or the more inland, slightly taxonomically differing Acacia affin. trachycarpa.

Acacia affin. trachycarpa - WATTLE

Acacia trachycarpa - WATTLE

I've been researching the Qld possible relative Acacia curranii. Both have the characteristic "Minni richi" peeling bark.
Have found no information on alkaloids but the two aboved mentioned species are quite rare and un-ethical wild harvest ( more than a few phyllodes) would be disrespectful I feel.

Cultivation for research should definitely be pursued as I have a feeling desert adapted Acacias are good tryptamine candidates.

Spice Sailor

 

[Gowpen]

Synchronicities all round then, hahaha..... I agree with the desert theory and leaving rare Acacia to do their thing without human intervention.

It was the bark that commanded my attention, absolutely beautifull, as are the flowers.
Thanks Spice Sailor...... We are all reading from the same song sheet.

Love and Peas
G

 

[nen888]

..fine sailing SpiceSailor..,
Growpen wrote:

Isnt that the Acacia associated with Thoth ?

..yes, Thoth, the stars, language, and Isis..(eventually writing a book, btw..'s'why i'm here less..)
see Acacia info thread..

 

[acacian]

well... i'm a little unsure about these. at first i suspected mucronata subs. longifolia but now I am thinking it could maybe be just acacia mucronata... it doesn't have the rounded tips on the phyllodes though so not sure. the reason I am doubting it being the longifolia subs is because some of the phyllodes seem a little too wide to fit the i.d.... the longifolia subs seems to have narrower phyllodes. The phyllodes were actually quite tough and sharp which I am told is an attribute of the mucronata group.. if these photos arent enough i will upload more

 

[acacian]

ok so looks like that last one was not a mucronata subs. longifolia.. i'm 99% sure i've found the one now!

 

[acacian]

ok so again, i could do with some help identifying these trees. I feel the phyllode shape and size is more comparable to maidenii.. but the flower rods are too long and look much more like floribunda. At the library the other day i came accross this picture which shows a sketch of acacia floribunda.... notice the phyllodes compared to the narrower phyllode floribunda that is talked about here. no basal gland either

 

[sharpstuff]

So many acacia's around my area, kind of overwhelms me >.<

Any chance anyone could see if this a slightly different variant of Burkitti?

same flowers/smell, just different stem color and leave length / color (less green maybe lack of water?