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SWIM is going to be helping to remove a huge stand of these invasive Acacia mearnsii trees tomorrow that are encroaching on a local wildlife area.

SWIM has never done an extraction, so I want to know what part of the tree to use. Ideally the bark from younger branches. Should you just get a knife and and scrape off the bark from the small (1-4 inch) diameter brances.

Also, SWIM has never done an extraction before, so what teks would you recommend?

And how long does the bark stay active when kept dry in storage? can branches be left lying around and then used in a few months?

Since there hasn't been rain for over six months, I expect this to be a good time for alkaloids.
 
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Hmm..yeah mostly second what the monk said, thanks rudder:)..although the top photo, the centre looks like crystals and the outside a little like excess sodium hydroxide..redissolving the extracts in NP solvent and 'washing' with salty NAOH+water IMO would be the best step at this stage..
..and, also with I could smell it..!:) does it have a smell, rudder? ..it also should be insoluble in water..
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Smelled the phyllode extract tray today. I don't know what it's supposed to smell like, but it definitely didn't smell like naphtha anymore. It had a very distinct (quite unlike anything I've smelled before) and not so pleasant smell. Like a mix between a chemically smell and very mildewy wet/dirty clothes smell. Still has moisture and runs just a little bit when the tray is tilted, so it will probably take a couple more sunny days before scraping can commence.

The bark extract tray is a couple days behind the phyllode tray. - Just decided to evaporate both trays per the recommendation of acacian.

I did a bit of research and realized that the jars were not moist enough to begin with, so the naphtha was getting trapped in the bark powder. Adding water helped, but one jar still didn't reveal the naphtha, so salt was added, which did a nice job. Also, I realized the insides of the jars were coated with black sludge, so I couldn't really see the naphtha layer even though it was present. Therefore the last (fourth) pull was very large since it also contained some of the "lost" naphtha from the previous pulls.

Also, the bark extract tray was cleaned up a bit by adding distilled water, which bubbled together all of the impurities at the bottom of the tray. - Decanted this with an eyedropper, and placed the mixture back into the original extraction jar....waited a few minutes, and did another small pull from the same jar, being careful not to suck up any of the base layer.

I feel reassured now. Thanks for your input.
 
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It had a very distinct (quite unlike anything I've smelled before) and not so pleasant smell. Like a mix between a chemically smell and very mildewy wet/dirty clothes smell.
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..that's the smell..:) !, as some describe it..or, as others say, somewhere between old mothballs and neurochemistry..

..is it possible for you rudder to get a small amount of any certain dmt plant? (mimosa, confusa, chacruna) ..then you have a reference at least for the smell..

this is important work you're doing rudder..and not fully charted..
thanks again..
 
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Nen, I'll have to post some ID pictures this winter when various curious Acacia species are in bloom. It wouldn't surprise me if there are specimens of other DMT-containing Acacias. I'm always surprised when I find new exotic plants in this town. It's like you never know what will pop up.

Acacia acuminata is almost a perfect climatic match here, so it wouldn't be a surprise to find some here. However, my research so far has led me to believe that Acacia mearnsii is the best Acacia source here. The common Acacias that are planted here are not known for their DMT content: melanoxylon, pendula, longifolia, glaucescens, podalyriaefolia, verticillata, redolens, baileyana, cultriformis, dealbata, decurrens....also some more intriguing species are said to be around here: elata, farnesiana, pennatula, retinodes, pravissima, pycnantha, rubida...of which retinodes is said to be a decent source. So far though, I've only really developed an eye for mearnsii and perhaps redolens. I haven't spent much time trying to ID local Acacias.

Edit: I also forgot to mention that I have seeds for A. victoriae, but I haven't planted them because I'm not convinced that it will grow well (and I assume it won't yield well) in this coastal Mediterranean climate here vs. in a more hot, desert climate.
 
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Both trays seem to have completely evaporated, HOWEVER the residue that remains stuck to the tray has remained moist and now over 40 hours have passed since any visible liquid evaporated, yet the extract is still moist to the touch.

Does the extract ever really dry completely? If not, then what is the source of the moisture? This may be a FAQ, but couldn't find the answer.
 
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"weeks" to completely dry!!:shock:

Forget that! In that case the trays are going in the sun all day tomorrow and then in the oven with the door slightly open at 170F tomorrow night.
 
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crazycanadian wrote:
Okay, is there any step by step TEK including chemicals/supplies needed? I have 5kg of mimosa mearnsii... I want to try an extraction on.. If anyone can please give me a hand thank you!!
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..it's important to spend time reading the Nexus..there is plenty of info X 10 here..
firstly..there is no mimosa mearnsii..so i'm already confused..
second, 5kg is an awful lot of bark..a concern here is a) tree death b) huge amounts..

an Acacia tek is here..https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=39030&p=1
there is no supplier discussion allowed at the Nexus..
 
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A friend from Brazil sent me the bark, so not sure about tree death and not discussing sources as I am aware of the policy on here. Thank you for the tek and yes I meant acacia not mimosa sorry. Also I have been reading just have not found much on mearnsii.. this will be my first extraction. So was not sure if all acacia were the same
Thanks for the response
 
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Yes, they did call it mimosa.. but i see after reading tons on here that its acacia mearnsii.. Does this plant contain tryptamine/dmt? Also is there a better TEK for mearnsii then others or just any acacia TEK would work?
 
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Dude, sorry if this sounds harsh, but wtf is your problem? How about just reading the freaking thread that you just posted in! You do realize I created this thread because I had Acacia mearnsii bark, and zero extraction experience?

Having said that, I wouldn't waste my time with extracting...assuming that what you're talking about truly is Acacia mearnsii (I have my doubts about that though, since even southern Brazil is not a very good climatic match for Acacia mearnsii).

This whole mearnsii extraction was a total waste of time. I just ended up with a couple blobs of goo that in all likelihood are just waxes and a bunch of other inactive crap. Couldn't say for sure though since it's basically impossible to vaporize, since it immediately turns to liquid when subjected to heat and slips through screens and steel mesh. I have serious doubts about the guy on the acacia thread who claimed to get 1.2% from the bark.

Oh well, I'll go waste a couple hundred dollars on the next frivolous hobby.....
 
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And now that I've gotten that off my chest......

There is still a chance that my technique is not correct with the GVG. What would be the dosage equivalent in mg of goop vs. mg of pure dmt?

I assume it totally depends on how active the extract is, but maybe y'all have some insights.
 
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When I had to use the goop, some other extracted oddness from another experiment (with jungle-esqe spice from mimosa) I found it to work quite well if I dabbed up an amount, more than I'd think I'd want to use, and taking a few small hits to get a feel for the strength.

In regards to the GVG, you're using multiple screens/a machine ball (metal scrubber ball), right? Is there visible DMT running down the side? It sounds like that's what you're describing, so try amping up your mesh balls, make them thicker, and premelt the oil into them. Another idea would be to try a fullblown bho oil rig if you or a friend has one. They're meant to vaporize more liquidy concentrates, with a little dish often in the titanium nail from which the extract can evaporate.
If it smells funky, it's quite likely, it seems to me, that if you could get it vaporize, it may contain actives.
I also have a personal interest, because I'm pretty sure, after viewing this thread, and photos online, that Acacia Mearnsii is exactly what I have down the street. I may take my own crack an extraction when more fortuitous circumstances present themselves to me.
 
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Mearnsii is highly variable, between trees, and at different times of the year. It is a real tricky one. If you are looking for DMT in Mearnsii, consider it is a fishing mission, where you will not likely catch any fish, but if you catch one, you might well catch a whopper!
 
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nyru40 said:
When I had to use the goop, some other extracted oddness from another experiment (with jungle-esqe spice from mimosa) I found it to work quite well if I dabbed up an amount, more than I'd think I'd want to use, and taking a few small hits to get a feel for the strength.

In regards to the GVG, you're using multiple screens/a machine ball (metal scrubber ball), right? Is there visible DMT running down the side? It sounds like that's what you're describing, so try amping up your mesh balls, make them thicker, and premelt the oil into them. Another idea would be to try a fullblown bho oil rig if you or a friend has one. They're meant to vaporize more liquidy concentrates, with a little dish often in the titanium nail from which the extract can evaporate.
If it smells funky, it's quite likely, it seems to me, that if you could get it vaporize, it may contain actives.
I also have a personal interest, because I'm pretty sure, after viewing this thread, and photos online, that Acacia Mearnsii is exactly what I have down the street. I may take my own crack an extraction when more fortuitous circumstances present themselves to me.
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Yeah next time I'll try a thicker scrubber ball, because if I really try to vape it good, then I definitely get a lot of goop dripping down into the pipe.

I'd be curious as to why this mearnsii extract doesn't contain DMT since it was harvested at the end of a six month rainless drought. It must be like St. John's Wart where some of the active components need to be harvested in absolute darkness, because they are completely absent by noon the next day.
 
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