acacia seeds as a source of tryptamines

[Phlux-]

Has anyone heard of acacia seeds being used in a simmilar way to cebil or yopo - kinda makes sense, perhaps a good direction for more research ?

 

[biopsylo]

yes, but only the info on wiki. i think there were several mentions of species that had traces of dmt and other alkaloids in the seeds.
some acacias are enormous with heaps of seedpods. i like the idea of extracting from prunings/litter rather than bark.
but where to start? geographical location, species, vendor??

 

[Phlux-]

hrmm - i can test the seeds of many of the strains here but i have no way to analyze the final product other than vaping (haha - dangerous!) and growing it into xtals.

 

[burnt]

^^Yes one should be careful concentrating alkaloids from any plant species of unknown or complex phytochemistry.

Some of these species contain things like amphetamines (not sure what kind though), nicotine, and cyanogenic glycosides.

 

[biopsylo]

have you narrowed it down a bit from 1000+ different acacias?

 

[Phlux-]

yep - the ones i have access to and are listed on the wiki as spice containing - any tips for acacias in za would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Phlux-]

acacia seeds as yopo - Other Psychoactives - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

almost the same

the fact that giraffe eat acacia - acacia are active often and so is giraffe liver has inspired me to tek up some seedage this season

 

[Phlux-]

ima try find seeds of spp that giraffe eat

 

[nen888]

..with the amounts in the leaves of some acacia spp., there is little or no point looking in the seeds..seeds are usally high protein, not alkaloid..
giraffes eat the pinnae (small leaves) of A. giraffe and A. hematoxylon BTW...

 

[Phlux-]

iv personally seen giraffe eating seeds of acacia spp
look at other plants like datura - where are most alkaloids found ? in the seeds - along with plenty other plants
the leaves have a load of other crap in them - in most cases the leaf is not the best thing to work with as defats are more often required.

 

[nen888]

Phlux wrote:

iv personally seen giraffe eating seeds of acacia spp
look at other plants like datura - where are most alkaloids found ? in the seeds - along with plenty other plants
the leaves have a load of other crap in them - in most cases the leaf is not the best thing to work with as defats are more often required.

this doesn't surprise me, but that's my point about acacia seeds, they are high protein, traditionally eaten as a staple food (unlike yopo) ..the extraction of phyllodes (which in some spp. can have over 1.2% dmt) has less tar issues than bark, usually no defat required.. (phyllodes are an extention of the bark)

not wanting to pour cold water on research, just reporting what i know..there may be traces of alkaloid in acacia seeds...