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Accentually oxidised during Acid cook: ADVICE PLEASE

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Ok so SWIM is making their first batch of DMT(hopefully)

So SWIM only just started and he fuxed up already, he did his first Acid boil and was straining using a cloth and a (crap)sieve, after about 500ml he notices that what he's putting in the sieve is deep red and what is coming out is almost black... It took him a few mins to figure out what was going on... his sieve is IRON so now its oxidised and he assumes that means he's just put rust into the batch.

After he realised he switched to just straining with the cloth, only about 500ml is black.

Is it still ok for him to use the black part or should he throw it away, He'd rather use it as it was his first acid cook which should have the largest yield.

[After it sits the black sinks and he assumes it can be decanted BUT he thinks some dmt would be caught in the sludge]

PS: is it ok to leave the acid alk mix for a day or two? SWIM will be working on it in 8hrs or so but just a little worried that it could all be ruined by the time SWIM gets to it and SWIM wont have another chance for 2weeks!



SWIM cant wait to try this DMT sounds like a life changer, learning o-chem is awesome too, never realised SWIM was so interested in O-Chem.
 
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What acid did you use?

I don't think the sieve can oxidize that fast, it takes oxygen and time to rust iron. Possibly whats going on is that your pull is just dark, and the red that came out was bark?

Even still, i'm sure the spice is fine, no harm done to it even if rust is present. Just decant and filter well, and you will be fine.

The sediment that comes out after cooling is relatively common, i think its tannins or micro sediments from powdered bark. Your best bet imo is to filter once through a tee shirt, pour into a mason, decant in fridge overnight, then carefully pour off through a coffee filter. Make sure to save the gunk for last, so there's almost no water to get clogged up in the filter.

You can then add this gunk back into some acidic water if you wist to get all the alkaloids that could possibly be caught up in the gunk. I usually nuke it in a mason jar, stopping and stirring every 2 mins until it boils. Then simply decant and filter off your last pull. Discard gunk.
 
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The Day Tripper said:
What acid did you use?

I don't think the sieve can oxidize that fast, it takes oxygen and time to rust iron. Possibly whats going on is that your pull is just dark, and the red that came out was bark?

Even still, i'm sure the spice is fine, no harm done to it even if rust is present. Just decant and filter well, and you will be fine.

The sediment that comes out after cooling is relatively common, i think its tannins or micro sediments from powdered bark. Your best bet imo is to filter once through a tee shirt, pour into a mason, decant in fridge overnight, then carefully pour off through a coffee filter. Make sure to save the gunk for last, so there's almost no water to get clogged up in the filter.

You can then add this gunk back into some acidic water if you wist to get all the alkaloids that could possibly be caught up in the gunk. I usually nuke it in a mason jar, stopping and stirring every 2 mins until it boils. Then simply decant and filter off your last pull. Discard gunk.
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Thanks for your advice "The Day Tripper" :D

Sulphuric Acid is being used as the Acid to a PH of around 2/3.

Great advice with re boiling the gunk wouldn't have thought of that.

Im just noticing now but the gunk in the first (BLACK) mix is crazy its so thick, looks just like TAR.
I should probably add that the sieve is really old and their-for already has some iron-oxide on it.
 
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A pH of 2/3 seems too low. You could try using dilute HCl with a pH of ~4 and might get better results. If the pH is too low more gunk seems to be pulled into the non-polar phase and would require more washing. just $0.02.
 
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cker said:
A pH of 2/3 seems too low. You could try using dilute HCl with a pH of ~4 and might get better results. If the pH is too low more gunk seems to be pulled into the non-polar phase and would require more washing. just $0.02.
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Yeah I know Im low on the PH, the sulphuric acid is super strong one drop to 2lt its 2/3ph.. guess I should not be so lazy next time spend more time ph'ing.

At least that explains my large amount of sediment.

Thanks.
 
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Well SWIM managed to get some product less than most seem to get, I guess since I didnt let it acid soak for any length of time could be the reason, now to wait till the right time to try this stuff.
 
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