acrb pros needed, a non written tek route .

[citral]

Its been about 3 years since Ive needed or felt that I needed some bark in my life. Ive done stb's and a/b's on mhrb a handful of times and feel very comfortable doing so. REMOVED . Ive found that I prefer jungle spice and would like some of that as well as some white fluffy flakes.The jungle is most likely going to be thrown in some changa. I'm not going to follow an exact tek and would rather use my existing experience and existing knowledge Ive gained from this site( most knowledge on subject at hand is from this site, thank you all past,present, and future tek writers.)

Im planning on the following:

-acidify bark with hcl water ,boil and decant 4x
-reduce to a quart or so, base and let sit 1-2 nights.
-heat up aqueaous solution , pull 4x with xylene consecutively and combine.discard aqueous solution.
-salt xylene with hcl water, seperate hcl water, discard xylene.
-re-base goodie (hcl) water. pull 2x with naptha , combine and freeze precipitate.
-pull 2 more times with xylene and evap.

The reason I was thinking of going this route is because I would like some clean spice for oral , or occasional smoalking. I dont want to evap a ton of xylene , and Ive also read people are ending up with goo from naptha alone. I dont mind if some of my spice is goo, jungle, which will become changa anyway.Anyone tried omething similar or have any input?

 

[BongWizard]

You won't end up with jungle spice if you do a second acid/base cleanup. The tannins and fats that make jungle spice what it is will be lost when you discard the first lot of xylene.

Instead, do 2 separate extractions. One for jungle and one for crystal. To get your jungle spice, do the first 3 steps then evap the xylene. To get your white fluff, do all the steps you described, except use 4 pulls of naphtha and freeze precip after the final base step (instead of 2 naphtha and 2 xylene)

EDIT: for your white fluff, it's probably better to just use naphtha for your first pulls as well. The DMT will salt out better. Also, add NaCl with your NaOH to help drive the DMT out of the aqueous phase.

EDIT 2: more advice: use 3 separate volumes of HCl on your second acid phase (ie equal volume to your nps three time over). Also, you don't need to leave under base for that long. A longer acid phase (overnight followed by a couple hours at a simmer) and shorter base phase (2-3 hours will suffice) will give comparable results quicker. And you don't necessarily need to do 4 acid boils initially, one big one will do just fine.

 

[citral]

much appreciated bongwizard. I use to do 2 xylene pulls after initial naptha pulls were done on mhrb. I guess ill just do the same with the acrb , plus a mini a/b for my naptha. Im guessing my xylene pulls will most likely be a goo, do you know if the weight for dosage is roughly the same as crystal?

 

[BongWizard]

Typically my jungle spice comes in at about 70ish percent actives with the rest being tannins and fats (tested by cleaning 5.04g of jungle to 3.59g of white wax by a/b extract). Therefore you'll wanna up the does of jungle by about 50%.

If you do xylene pulls after naphtha from your first base phase, most of what comes out of the xylene will be tannins and fats. Naphtha has a great ability to dissolve DMT, but will pull little fat and no tannins (hot naphtha will pull a bit of fat but still no tannins)