Activated Carbon, A/B Dry Tek, Iso? Ideas, Ideas!

[FungusMungus]

Has anyone added activated carbon to a brew or during a A/B extraction? I'm wondering if it at all clears it up any or removes the tannins/fats/etc. effectively? I'll be working with Acacia Confusa bark.

I was thinking if i could get the solution clear enough, i could maybe boil the brew with AC, filter, repeat 3-5 times, boil down to a small volume and pour it into a pyrex baking dish, add lime to it, and let this dry over a few days time. Then pull with Isopropyl alcohol, then add some more AC to clean that up? Any thoughts?

Iv'e seen a thread over at mycotopia that showed some yellow spice turned into pure white w/ activated carbon that sparked the idea, haven't found much else about this by using the search bar.

(I don't want to order chemicals online for obvious reasons, and i would like to utilize the materials i already have and what is locally available)

 

[FungusMungus]

Thanks Ambivalent! Updates soon to come.

 

[FungusMungus]

It all dried up after a few hours to a pretty dark oily looking stuff. I tried to scrape it off the sides and it looked like tiny glass shards (but wasn't glass, though i thought it was at first), i don't know if you can really tell from the picture.

I added 50 grams of lime and a small amount of water to make a paste and now will let this stuff dry and scrape it up and transfer it to a pyrex measuring cup for a freezing iso pull. A glass stir rod comes in handy here. It's getting there. :thumb_up:

This stuff smells just like mimosa after adding lime, i love that smell.

Edit: It was impossible to scrape up without adding warm water to it. The whole thing was very solid with a glassy texture.

 

[Ambivalent]

looking nice and clean. im interested to see how the next few steps will go.

 

[FungusMungus]

looking nice and clean. im interested to see how the next few steps will go.

Thanks. Me too! I'm pretty thrilled, still crossing my fingers for crystals though, but a smokeable product is for certain.

 

[FungusMungus]

I got a few more questions for you Ambivalent if you don't mind.

How long should i do an iso pull for?

How much iso should i use for a pull? Like double as much as the powder?

The paste is drying very quickly. :thumb_up:

 

[Ambivalent]

i would keep the iso cold all the time during the pulling. and with the idea that dmt will readily dissolve in the iso even at freezing temperatures, i would limit the pulls to 1 or 2 minutes each with occasional stirring.

as for how much, i would put at least to cover the powder. if you have enough iso to work with use a bit more.

edit : just a suggestion. cool the powder before pulling, use fridge for couple of minutes. if there ary any plant oils, let them harden a bit on colder temperature.

 

[FungusMungus]

Ok, good thing i asked, i was going to pull for 24 hours. That makes sense less time for it to absorb other things.

Alright, i'll just add the powder to the freezer for a while. It's actually a very fine powder now on the sides, still needs a bit longer to dry in the middle.

I'll get some more pics up once it's all scraped up.

Once again thank you very much.

 

[Ambivalent]

Ok, good thing i asked, i was going to pull for 24 hours. That makes sense less time for it to absorb other things.

correct. and even if it didnt pulled everything you can always pick the rest later. lets just hope the pulls will come out clean.

Alright, i'll just add the powder to the freezer for a while. It's actually a very fine powder now on the sides, still needs a bit longer to dry in the middle.

yea even the fridge(not the freezing chamber) will be ok, the powder is good cold.

Once again thank you very much.

you are very welcomed of course.

 

[FungusMungus]

Still a little moist...

Do you think if it completely dries it will still be sufficiently freebased?

To be continued...

 

[FungusMungus]

It didn't work because it would not filter through anything i tried. I think the 9% of water in the alcohol had alot to do with it. Maybe pure acetone or 99% would have been better because the powder was like mud when i added the freezing iso. However i'm not discouraged, i like to experiment anyways. I'll just stick to ayahuasca. Your help has been appreciated Ambivalent. :thumb_up:

Thread can be deleted.

 

[endlessness]

These threads are not made solely for people starting them.

Every failed experiment is a victory, because one can learn from it and grow. If no mistakes were made, we would never find the right path.

If I see my neighbour hitting his head against the wall, I will have the opportunity to avoid that same mistake. But if the neighbour hides from me, then I might also hit my head.

 

[Infundibulum]

It didn't work because it would not filter through anything i tried. I think the 9% of water in the alcohol had alot to do with it. Maybe pure acetone or 99% would have been better because the powder was like mud when i added the freezing iso. However i'm not discouraged, i like to experiment anyways. I'll just stick to ayahuasca. Your help has been appreciated Ambivalent. :thumb_up:

Thread can be deleted.

To me it sounds like you abandoned right in the very end? definitely no failure. Everything was working fine so far; do not worry if it wouldn't filter, you could have waited for everything to settle and then decant...

And 91% isopropanol works perfectly; that was not your issue.

Finally, for the reasons endlessness outlined, there is really no reason to delete this thread. Would you also like to give us back the original title of this thread?

 

[Ambivalent]

Everything was working fine so far; do not worry if it wouldn't filter, you could have waited for everything to settle and then decant...

this thought came to me too. he could have putted everything back in the freezer and wait for the powder particles to settle. than decant, and pull again. similar to the rue washes in the rue extraction teks.

edit : i feel a little responsible for leading you this far. so if you have any question on proceeding or salvaging that material, dont hesitate to ask

 

[FungusMungus]

It didn't work because it would not filter through anything i tried. I think the 9% of water in the alcohol had alot to do with it. Maybe pure acetone or 99% would have been better because the powder was like mud when i added the freezing iso. However i'm not discouraged, i like to experiment anyways. I'll just stick to ayahuasca. Your help has been appreciated Ambivalent. :thumb_up:

Thread can be deleted.

To me it sounds like you abandoned right in the very end? definitely no failure. Everything was working fine so far; do not worry if it wouldn't filter, you could have waited for everything to settle and then decant...

And 91% isopropanol works perfectly; that was not your issue.

Finally, for the reasons endlessness outlined, there is really no reason to delete this thread. Would you also like to give us back the original title of this thread?

Ok, title is back. I did wait for it to settle, it was a light yellow liquid on top, i added a little more than how much powder there was, the powder was about 175ml in a measuring cup, the alcohol about 200ml level. Half a bottle of the iso was used. When i tried to pour it out, the mud came out with the liquid and clogged the coffee filter and also tried with a paper towel, a small amount of liquid was obtained, very small.

Damn i feel bad for tossing it before asking more questions...

I just figured there was no way of getting everything out.

Live and learn i guess. ahhhh. :x

Every failed experiment is a victory, because one can learn from it and grow. If no mistakes were made, we would never find the right path.

Maybe someone else will attempt this the right way. I guess i at least accomplished bringing a new idea to the table.

I just wanted to do a little experiment for the heck of it, i was more interested in aya to begin with.

I'm upset with myself though to waist such a great molecule...

So dumb.

 

[Ambivalent]

just dont be to hard on your self. and thank you for the pics and the AC experimenting.

 

[Infundibulum]

Damn i feel bad for tossing it before asking more questions...

I just figured there was no way of getting everything out.

Live and learn i guess. ahhhh. :x

Every failed experiment is a victory, because one can learn from it and grow. If no mistakes were made, we would never find the right path.

Maybe someone else will attempt this the right way. I guess i at least accomplished bringing a new idea to the table.

I just wanted to do a little experiment for the heck of it, i was more interested in aya to begin with.

I'm upset with myself though to waist such a great molecule...

So dumb.

Aaargh, every time someone throws away a "failed" extraction, a child dies:d

Almost nothing in extractions is lost or irretrievable unless you toss it away...

 

[Ambivalent]

if you get to any trouble or doubts dont hesitate to ask, also dont throw anything until you are sure you have the spice.

to quote myself from the previous page...