Actual experience and recovery?

[Tanjib]

So has anyone actually used DMT and recovered from clinical major depressive disorder? If you have how was the process
I was actually going to try psilocybin. It is the thing that i havs most knowledge on. But then i came to know that DMT is actually more available in my country so thinking if i should start researching about DMT
Btw I'm completely new here and this is my first post
Cheers everyone!

 

[Nydex]

DMT has tremendous potential in alleviating treatment-resistant depression, as do most psychedelics. Now if you're asking whether it "cured" it, that's a different question the answer to which heavily relies on how you define "cure". But it seems that for many people that struggle with mental health, a somewhat consistent and regular use of psychedelics, including DMT, is incredibly effective at bringing one back to a place of more happiness and harmony.

If you want to research deeper, there are many good books written about it. A decent starting point for you could be DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman but there are also many more, as well as an absolute treasure trove of helpful information and anecdotal data here on this forum.

Good luck

 

[Tanjib]

DMT has tremendous potential in alleviating treatment-resistant depression, as do most psychedelics. Now if you're asking whether it "cured" it, that's a different question the answer to which heavily relies on how you define "cure". But it seems that for many people that struggle with mental health, a somewhat consistent and regular use of psychedelics, including DMT, is incredibly effective at bringing one back to a place of more happiness and harmony.

If you want to research deeper, there are many good books written about it. A decent starting point for you could be DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman but there are also many more, as well as an absolute treasure trove of helpful information and anecdotal data here on this forum.

Good luck

Thank you very much!

 

[blig-blug]

I think most psychedelics can be useful for that. They can also be harmful and destabilizing. It all depends on when and how you use them.

I think there's a relative consensus here that the idea prompted by the pharmaceutical companies interested in psychedelics that it's "one and done", that the substance itself cures you and a single dose may do it, is very questionable. There may be a few cases like that but it's not how it usually goes.

As someone who was in a very deep, dark depression for years, my perspective is that psychedelics can help you get insight into your situation and temporarily loosen the grip of learned mental patterns, habits, etc. But then it's up to you what to do with those insights and higher mental flexibility.

IMO the main path out of depression is the same, regardless of whether you're using psychedelics or not. Psychedelics may help and I encourage you to try if you think that may be the case. Just avoid putting too many expectations on the substance itself. It won't cure your depression: you will. Same goes for therapy or other techniques. Psychedelics deserve special caution because they're very powerful. As always, a higher potential benefit comes hand in hand with a higher risk.

Specifically with DMT, I think that you may find more helpful oral DMT in Ayahuasca or pharmahuasca. Or at least smoked DMT combined with harmalas, be it as changa or by taking oral harmalas. Adding harmalas tends to make the experience slower (and thus easier to process and interact with) and of a more personal nature.

If you decide to go for smoked DMT only, I'd encourage you to also explore the lower doses, as again those may be more personal and more relevant to your depression. Of course, this doesn't mean you shouldn't also go for some higher doses. Mystical experiences can be helpful in shifting your mind.

All the best luck in your path, and I hope to see you around here and read about your process

 

[blig-blug]

By the way, as you have asked for personal experiences and I said nothing about that: in my case, psychedelics were helpful at first, making me much more aware of the causes of my situation. However in those days I believed I had to "face the worst" and started using psychedelics to forcefully dig deeper into my worst fears, memories, and aspects of myself. That proved to be too much at once in my case, and together with other factors, it destabilized me. I eventually stopped taking them, but should have done so much earlier.

When I started recovering and improving, it was in good part thanks to the greater understanding that I had initially acquired. Nowadays I use psychedelics in a very different way, and they're helpful and not destabilizing (although I'm not depressed anymore since years ago). But it's become much more of a spiritual rather than therapeutical practice.

In summary: go ahead with exploring DMT if you think it could help you. Just temper your expectations, remember that actually improving depends on you and not the substance, and keep an eye to make sure you're staying grounded and they're not exacerbating your situation.