Andrew Gallimore books etc

[TransistorBass]

I'm wondering if there is any use reading other Andrew Gallimore books after reading 'Death by Astonishment', Is dipping into his older books worth my time?
Reality Switch Technologies???
Alien Information Theory???

Though I feel these are more likely to be my next 'Christmas Gift Ideas'

Microdosing for Health, Healing, and Enhanced Performance -James Fadiman
The Body Keeps the Score
Psychedelic Press XL - Folklore & Psychedelics
The Psychedelic Experience: a Manual Based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead

And maybe - the Tibetan Book of the Dead

Is there anything else I could/should be looking at?

Thanks

 

[northape]

The Body Keeps the Score

Tibetan Book of the Dead

I'd read the one translated by the late Robert Thurman. He knew his stuff, and I like how he presented the text. It's much more digestible than other translations. It's better to come to your own conclusions based on this book than read regurgitated material, imo

 

[brettsta]

My son brought me that book , it's ok not a bad read especially when he talks about Helmuth and Szara and how it all come to be .
I was hoping he would go into his own experiences in detail , but no just more second hand experiences . I like him , but he's always on YouTube and I've heard it all before .

 

[TransistorBass]

Noted @northape and @brettsta I guess most researchers out there don't go shouting about their personal experiences around there actual research for fear of being looked on badly.

Though I'd agree he's been all over the internet and the blanket coverage is now all very samey, we need to hear more of his planned experiments rather than regurgitating the same -far-fetched-or-not- assumptions all the time.

I enjoyed Death by Astonishment.

 

[brettsta]

Noted @northape and @brettsta I guess most researchers out there don't go shouting about their personal experiences around there actual research for fear of being looked on badly.

Though I'd agree he's been all over the internet and the blanket coverage is now all very samey, we need to hear more of his planned experiments rather than regurgitating the same -far-fetched-or-not- assumptions all the time.

I enjoyed Death by Astonishment.

Yeah it is a good book , I've got it here now , I often pick it up .
That fear in sharing personal experience info I get , we are all a bit like that , at the beginning of my journey I couldn't wait to find someone to tell .
Now I rarely tell anyone of my experiences , certainly not family . It's way too much to crazy for most .

I think he is a big part of some great minds coming together in trying to understand this special molecule , it will be interesting to see where DMTx goes . ?

 

[pantostao]

I still haven't read Death by Astonishment, but I did read Alien Information Theory, and it was really entertaining, easy to read, and the edition is very beautiful (the fonts, formatting, images, and colours are very interesting)

I think it was @northape that I talked to about Gallimore's theories in another thread. Our conclusion was: He's really entertaining, thought-provoking even, but not really scientific in his writings. I read his books as if they're some kind of poetry, like a modern McKenna, but I don't trust the conclusions he gets. Some people fall into the fallacy of authority with his words: Yes, he's a neuroscientist, but he writes about an unknown field.

So, I do recommend reading it, but as a work of literature rather than a scientific text.

I'll soon start reading his other two books whenever I have some free time. I've been postponing it long enough.

 

[northape]

His theories are as valid as any other, but that scientific myth representation simply doesn't resonate that well with me. Some people may enjoy that kind of approach and language, but not me. The ineffable is always likened to the highest technology of the time, but that's just our arrogance speaking. If you think that people who built the pyramids were less advanced than we are, we would have a hard time communicating.

Being out of the social paradigm for many years now, I can easily see human bias. We're all biased here, and people tend to lean toward those who reaffirm their own bias - the university circle is a good example. When you repeat something all the time, you'll believe it sooner or later. That's just how the brain works and how we learn stuff. The real magic is when someone can present a theory and not be bound by it, although it's usually intertwined with personal identity and survival. Going past your fears is hard, and humans are insanely afraid of death. Real maturity is hard to come by in life. That's what I've seen in my four decades on this starship.

Look at the night sky and wonder. It'll do you more good than watching one more primate on YT speaking about the mystery of life. You're alive right now and can investigate it all you want. Even solitary confinement can't stop you. That's what I call Freedom.
No view is the best view

 

[TransistorBass]

I want to see the research about "mapping the realm" and "can people in the same state but separate rooms communicate or pass information" ???

And the Donald Hoffman collab thing, yeah I like the idea that there is a fundamental sub strait or building block that everything else can be realised from..... I simply need a little more.

Now while we don't know what or where consciousness is, how can consciousness be the unknown base-layer from which everything else is derived? And "predicts the DMT state" ???????? Kinda like saying Chickens come from Eggs but the only eggs we have are made of Chocolate with a fondant filling.

btw, I'd be happy is consciousness is the base layer of reality.