any examples of hyperspace affecting our 3d world?..during or after trip?

[skinwalker]

I'm curious if anyone has read about or experienced a trip where what occurs in hyperspace somehow affected our 3d reality either during the trip or after the trip. I'm starting to hypothesize that a "trip" is more of a guided experience into the 4th or higher dimensions. The more I read about the 4th dimension and the countless experiences i've had with what i used to call "aliens", "ghosts", "fairy lights" ect... prior to ever hearing about DMT... combined with the the new experience with DMT has convinced me there may be a coorelation. I think a trip may be nothing more than a 4th dimensional creature (or higher dimension) attempt to teach you to open your eyes to this alternative reality that exists all around us despite our limiting 2 dimensional vision (yes we see in 2d NOT 3d...only a 4d entity can do that).

I'm curious if while tripping anyone babysitting the "tripper" ever noticed any paranormal like activity or if such events perhaps happened after the trip? Rather than what we call a "ghost" as being your long dead uncle, in reality it could be your 3rd eye being opened to the reality of these higher dimensions and their willingness to interact/teach us.

I constantly feel that i'm being taught or shown things while experiencing a breakthrough and it makes perfect sense to me at least if it was a higher dimensional being helping me like a blind confused child to navigate and to truely "imagine" their point of view...

 

[cellux]

Have you seen Dark City?

This is tricky stuff. These changes - when they happen - change everything. There are no reference points left from the previous reality. Therefore there is no proof either. The only point of connection is in your mind (memories, acting as possible gateways), but even those are often concealed for safety reasons.

 

[Ekstasis]

wow, I haven't seen Dark City in ages...fantastic movie though.

Have you read 'Tryptamine Palace' by James Oroc?

There's some pretty fascinating stories he goes into about his 5-Meo-DMT trips jumping over into the real world. One such story involved his sitter seeing the ghost of his dead friend sitting next to him on the couch while he had a vision of her in his trip. I don't remember the exact details since I don't have the book in front of me. It's definitely some freaky stuff though, I recommend reading it.

 

[Felnik]

this may be a tangent but related.

my last epic journeys gave me a new level of understanding. I think what is happening is that we are poised for shift in our consciousness.

It seems to me that we are about to be given a new sense. Our brains are prewired for it. Its a new level of expanded conscious awareness.

awareness of another dimensional reality . The sense will be superimposed on this reality and blend togethor. we will be able to will it into our awareness with our minds. essentially we will be able to see with our minds.

I felt it and was doing it last week. Its totally amazing. I believe its the ultimate gift to humanity and this planet.

It will be so overwhelmingly beautiful that hate, war and most leftover primitive emotions will naturally become obsolete.

If you wanted to save a species what better way to do it than to give them a new sense.

Love seems to be universal.

 

[rOm]

SWIM got an anecdote from his very first HYperspace journey.
He got introduced by a friend to Salvia divinorum enhanced leaf, friend who brought it back from Netherland.
SWIM didn't know yet about hyperspace nor salvinorin or dmt wonders.

So with the only explaination he will just leave his body during the experience, he start to light a bong.
There was a generous dose of 10X enhanced salvia leaf that he light with a bic lighter.

As he was pulling the smoke he suddenly start melting with the table and experienced many aural distortions and psychologicals effects, he got surprised by the intensity of the effect while lighting the bowl.
After a bit of a shock he came back and his friend who was with two other friends asked him to give back the lighter he was just using to light this blast off dose.

SWIM couldn't find back the lighter, it wasn't in his pockets nor on the table or on the floor (a red bic that was)... the only explaination SWIM could give about what happened to this bic was that it was in his hand until his physical body start to melt with the table...

SWIM didn't have access to X-ray to find out if the lighter got trapped in SWIM's surrounding

 

[skinwalker]

SWIM couldn't find back the lighter, it wasn't in his pockets nor on the table or on the floor (a red bic that was)... the only explaination SWIM could give about what happened to this bic was that it was in his hand until his physical body start to melt with the table...

SWIM didn't have access to X-ray to find out if the lighter got trapped in SWIM's surrounding

i had something similiar happen to me with a pipe i was holding, it somehow got back into its origional box after i woke up on the floor screaming after an extremely powerful trip. I remember smoking and it being in my hand and then waking up on the floor but the pipe was somehow back in its box stored in a closed drawer!

I'm especailly curious about stories of sitters seeing paranormal events while someone is under.

 

[divineyes]

Felnik- that is one of the most beautiful thoughts I've ever heard. I feel you are 100% right on the money with this one!

 

[wade]

imagine a computer screen.
Now, Imagine you live in a program on this screen and yes it certainly looks three dimensional from your perspective.\
Imagine being able to see the inside of the computer that simulates your reality (like the fans, CPU, wires, etc.)
the answer to your question would be hyperspace generates reality and is a constant example if it's affects.
/this of course is only one perspective/

 

[lyserge]

I'm curious if while tripping anyone babysitting the "tripper" ever noticed any paranormal like activity or if such events perhaps happened after the trip? Rather than what we call a "ghost" as being your long dead uncle, in reality it could be your 3rd eye being opened to the reality of these higher dimensions and their willingness to interact/teach us.

As far as "higher dimensions" I don't subscribe to that model of these sorts of experiences. If we assume the first three dimensions are the three spatial dimensions, then it is only natural to reference time as the fourth dimension, given the connections between space and time shown by Einstein. Just as we small humans crawling on the surface of the Earth can't imagine that the Earth's surface, say on a flat lake, is actually curved, we can't imagine what the higher dimensions (if there are any) might be.

I think a model that makes more sense is that the universe consists of "planes" of varying "densities". The Earth and the physical plane are more dense, whereas the "spiritual planes" are less dense. If this model holds then the beings you refer to are "more rarified", existing in the "spiritual planes", and perhaps when we die (or in other experiences such as some DMT experiences) we merely start to vibrate on a different frequency, thus bringing ourselves onto a more rarified, spiritual plane. All this is New Age mumbo-jumbo, of course!

Hmm as far as curious events, check out "Tryptamine Palace", as Ekstasis suggested. Another good, unexpected source, was the interview with Owsley "The Bear" Stanley, famous soundman/chemist with the Grateful Dead, in "Conversations with the Dead" by David Gans. The Bear talks about the "paranormal" activity and possibilities he and the others discovered were made possible through the use of LSD and DMT. For example, he talks about "telepathic communication" that went on during rehearsals - not telepathic in the sense that one person was thinking something and was able to transmit it to another person, but telepathic in the sense that a "group mind" (a mind greater than the sum of the individual minds in question) was formed during these rehearsals and performances; as a result, the group members often felt that they were being played by the music, not vice versa. A lot of the guys in the Dead, Mickey Hart and Phil Lesh and Jerry Garcia in particular, have commented in this phenomenon.

Another example The Bear gives is when they smoked/vaporized DMT in the recording room, the equipment would often behave very strangely. Everyone in the room, including those who hadn't smoked the DMT, would hear the sound at a higher pitch, and the striking part is his claim that the voltmeter would actually briefly register a higher voltage after the DMT was smoked, as if the equipment itself was coming to life and reacting to the DMT.

The Bear saw all this as confirmation of what has been written about for centuries - for example, the powers a few Indian sadhus come to possess. He suggests the experiences they had while on LSD and DMT merely suggested or hinted at the possibilities.

As cellux said there is no proof.

 

[skinwalker]

As far as "higher dimensions" I don't subscribe to that model of these sorts of experiences. If we assume the first three dimensions are the three spatial dimensions, then it is only natural to reference time as the fourth dimension, given the connections between space and time shown by Einstein. Just as we small humans crawling on the surface of the Earth can't imagine that the Earth's surface, say on a flat lake, is actually curved, we can't imagine what the higher dimensions (if there are any) might be.
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i have to agree and disagree. Time is considered another possible element of the 4th dimension but so to is SPACE (these may be two SEPERATE things in relation to the 4th dimension). Some mathmaticians argue that space rather than time is the best way to conceptualize the forth dimension, and in relation to DMT i have to agree. To move in Ana or Kata angles is to move in the 4th dimension... its like axis XYZ...and now W. I think the "W" the matmaticians refer to is what may be opened in our minds eye when smoking DMT. This of course is merely a theory but one that gains strength once you really really read what it means to be a 4th dimensional entity or as a 3 dimensional entity (which we are) and what our observations would look like in the 4th dimension (It sounds EXACTLY like a DMT trip...or at least similar to all of mine!!).

Forget the time aspect and focus on the space portion. The problem with all this is is that according to the matmaticians this 4th dimensional space really does exist all around us, and IF DMT offers a glimpse into this space and even more intriguing is the possability to interact with occupants of this space, then how can this be brought back into our 3d reality as "Proof" of anything? ... In my opinion "enlightenment" is nothing more than opening your third eye (imagination?) to these higher dimensional realities which we are physically limited from, but not restricted mentally or spiritually...in other words the neurons in your brain can actually arrange themselves in potentially a inifinate number or dimensional arragments despite our own 2d visual perspective.

 

[Avatar in Oz]

hey good subject ,well iv had a few strange things happen in this reality when spice is around ,ok well a couple times iv been about to smoke my phonw will ring last time my mate that i told when i get some il let him know rang me just as i had inhaled i had time to look at my phone and switch it of but it ruined my experience,mayb i wasnt suposed to do it,and another thing iv noticed is if outside just before its smoked theres a big gust of wind on more then a few occasions and it doesnt seem to be windy before or after,also after my mate tried ringing me another friend had some and just as he was pulling his it started flogging down rain and stopped soon after.i dunno it seem bit weird to me ?

 

[skinwalker]

lately whenever i visit hyperspace i see this object alot (it is a 4d hypersphere mathmatically represented)

anyone else seen this ? usually the lines around it are moving as if energy is flowing in and out around the center

 

[Virola78]

lately whenever i visit hyperspace i see this object alot (it is a 4d hypersphere mathmatically represented)

anyone else seen this ? usually the lines around it are moving as if energy is flowing in and out around the center

yes i have seen it. But my memory of it is not as clear as your picture. different style.
The blue smaller picture in the middle looks like the picture i have drawn myself some years ago. It was the simple symbol that remained after i understood some paradoxical truths :shock:

And thats the moment i snap out of it