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Any way to speed up oral absorption of harmalas?

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Lately I have been working quite a bit with the harmalas. One issue is that the harmalas can vary in strength from time to time. I think the reason for this difference is how quickly the material is absorbed. If it is absorbed quickly, I get a strong experience, although it may end earlier. I found that with capsules, the experience is weaker and more delayed compared to drinking the harmala salts straight.

What can be done to improve absorption speed when drinking the harmala salts? Does fasting help? Any supplements? Anyone know what part of the digestive system that absorbs it?
 
I always find that a little bit of theobromine always speeds things up. It also seems to make THH as efficent an MAOI as harmaline at the same weight.

So be careful using it with harmaline especially.

I find not only does it speed up the onset, but also increases the length of the experience from anywhere between 30-50%
 
You could try using a toothbrush and brushing the whole of your mouth and then use mouthwash (or vodka) to open up the pores then give your mouth a swirl with harmalas before swallowing. Works well when salvia quidding.
 
SWIM has tested dosing spice 45 minutes and 90 minutes after harmalas and both gave trips of the same duration, 2 hours more or less.'

The doses were sublingual freebase though. SWIM has been working with it and had results 2-5x the potency of freebase with no nausea... burns though :p

edit: lol read the topic wrong...
 
dagger i hear aniracetam GREATLY increases the effects...theobromine does work....empty stomach helps..

i have found that if i take my harmalas and dmt in a capsule with a hole poked in the end..that i ALWAYS have powerful experiences if taken on an empty stomach

another technique that i use is...take the concoction on an empty stomach and then after you take it..eat a piece of bread with butter on it...this will get your stomach in action and trick it into thinkin there is FOOD and not poison..

and i think the fat in the butter also helps because i read somewhere that the fat releases some dmt that gets stuck in one of the filtering organs..not sure which
 
Jorkest said:
i have found that if i take my harmalas and dmt in a capsule with a hole poked in the end..that i ALWAYS have powerful experiences if taken on an empty stomach
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I tried that with harmaline and it took 90 minutes to come on. Never had that happen before. I poked several holes in the capsule.

I guess I could try the sublingual route, but can you get really strong experiences that way? I mean, where you puke really hard. My plan is to go deep with harmalas only. With slow absorption, I have to take about twice as much to get to the same depth.

On some rare occation, the speed of absorption is really fast, giving an experience up to 1.5-2 times as strong as normal. But I have not found what the cause of that rapid absorption is yet.

dagger i hear aniracetam GREATLY increases the effects...theobromine does work....empty stomach helps..
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Could you tell a bit more about Aniracetam? Is it specific to the harmalas?
 
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Dimitrius said:
Dissolve and drink in a 15-20% ethanol solution. 😉
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Tried it? :)

I suppose that would make it absorbable in the stomach itself.
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Yep. It seems to expedite the absorption and travel of the molecules to the nervous system.

Gives a short buzz, but then smooths out into pleasant inhibition.

Note* Experience is with harmala only solution, 50-100mg salts....no light added.
 
Jorkest said:
dagger i hear aniracetam GREATLY increases the effects...theobromine does work....empty stomach helps..

i have found that if i take my harmalas and dmt in a capsule with a hole poked in the end..that i ALWAYS have powerful experiences if taken on an empty stomach

another technique that i use is...take the concoction on an empty stomach and then after you take it..eat a piece of bread with butter on it...this will get your stomach in action and trick it into thinkin there is FOOD and not poison..

and i think the fat in the butter also helps because i read somewhere that the fat releases some dmt that gets stuck in one of the filtering organs..not sure which
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jork do you know if regular dark or milk chocolate would be safe and if it has high enough but safe enough levels of theobromine to potentiate?
 
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