Ashwagandha with psychedelics or harmala

[harmala_afficianado]

Wether taking the two together or spacing them a few hours to day, what has been your experience? Some reports say it blunts the effects, while other reports say the opposite, it apparently upregulates 5ht2a with chronic use, but it also lowers cortisol with is essential during a "trip", so i'm curious about everyones experience.

 

[Ruebacca]

I put not much attension to it back in the day when I mixed everything active. what i remember is that ashwagandha, had a very strong calming and mood lifting effect when taken in very high doses of diy ethanol extracts. but only once, and then never that strong again.

After that, the immediate effect where still present but, nowhere like the first time. Didnt got much out of it but still used it over a long time daily in medium dose range.

Nowadays i completeley lost interest in it because i found rue and amanita muscaria.

Amanitas might be something to check out if youre looking for a anxiolytic and calming addition. Works way better that ashwa for me persionally.

 

[harmala_afficianado]

Didnt got much out of it but still used it over a long time daily in medium dose range.

Do you not remember if psychedelics were any different during that period?

Amanitas might be something to check out if youre looking for a anxiolytic and calming addition. Works way better that ashwa for me persionally.

I would love to try amanita, but sadly it is not available where i live.

I found ashwagandha before bed helps me sleep well, the first few days the rue would hit extra hard if i drink coffee in the morning (harder than coffee+rue without ashwagandha the day before) but if i don't it feels like my my cortisol is too low and i feel slightly unmotivated the whole day, so i'm not sure if its sustainable long term, maybe i should just drink alot of coffee to balance the cortisol blunting? We will see i guess, i'm just worried psychedelics will be muted, as alot of reports say.

 

[Ruebacca]

i did not notice any strange interaction with psychedelics. maybe just try.

Nowadays I stopped coffe completly because i drank way, way to much. I feel soooo much better now with just a little greentea in the morning and a little bit of rue at somedays. the rue really does not go well with coffe IME . Mate or Greentea or Blacktea seems ok. Mate has the lowest side effects with rue for me.

Maybe try getting off caffeine and see how sleep might improve. Was a gamechanger for me. I know its hard, I only did ZERO for a view weeks and now im back on 1green tea. compared to megadosing coffe before, its almost nothing.

worth trying.

btw the dateseedcoffe is really nice,
thanks for the tip my friend !

 

[harmala_afficianado]

Nowadays I stopped coffe completly because i drank way, way to much. I feel soooo much better now with just a little greentea in the morning and a little bit of rue at somedays. the rue really does not go well with coffe IME . Mate or Greentea or Blacktea seems ok. Mate has the lowest side effects with rue for me.

I rarely drink coffee with rue, i drink coffee maybe once a week, rue makes coffee hit lile a hardcore stimulant, at times i felt like i was on meth lol.

I frequently use pure cacao powder with rue, alot smoother than coffee and adds a beautiful touch to the rue, ive also used yerba mate with it, it feels similar to cacao but without the serotonin glow that cacao produces, i like it more than coffee+rue tho.

Maybe try getting off caffeine and see how sleep might improve. Was a gamechanger for me. I know its hard, I only did ZERO for a view weeks and now im back on 1green tea. compared to megadosing coffe before, its almost nothing.

the insomnia i have is 90% from rue, if i take huge doses its very hard to sleep, days where i don't even consume cacao i might not sleep well, while days where i would drink alot coffee with rue i might sleep just fine.

btw the dateseedcoffe is really nice,
thanks for the tip my friend !

Anytime my friend , honestly as a person who has health as the main priority in life, and tried alot and alot of different plants and herbs for health, date seeds are probably the best one ive ever tried (after rue), it made me realize that ive always had brain fog when im at baseline, it gives me energy, clears away any brain fog, and helps with sleep, and also makes my vision very crisp and detailed, everything becomes very HD, especially if take it with rue. there is no reason not to take it lol.

i did not notice any strange interaction with psychedelics. maybe just try.

I took ashwagandha yesterday, and i decided to take 10g rue today after being on 4-5g for a while, normally it will be very smooth with barely any side effects (because i was taking that amount daily for a a month or two before, and it seems that it caused some permatolerance) but today i was absolutely demolished lol, like holy shit i can't remember when i was the last time i was this high on rue, i was in bed for hours the whole time laying on my back unable to move, i could barely see what's infront me from the chaos in my vision field, i thought that was my day to go at some point, i kept seeking forgiveness, lol, now on the comedown i feel heavenly.

Always when i take rue and it hits hard, i keep telling myself why did i dose that high and i keep regretting it, then after the peak i feel infinitely thankful for taking that amount, always.