SWIM has some MHRB Powder in some acetone, it looks very cloudy after setteling for 1 hour. SWIM noticed a very light layer of dust that was easy to stir and is woundering, is this top layer soaps or salts? Would it be alright to discard some of this top layer, not disturbing the layers below it, or does this layer have salts that shoudn't be discarded?
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Assistance needed - MHRB In Acetone
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69ron
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You should pour everything through a filter and keep all the solids and discard the acetone.
The tech you’re attempting has been tried by others already on a few other forums with success. The yields are fairly good, but the result isn’t that clean, but it is smokeable and quite potent. Just don’t expect nice clean DMT crystals from that tech.
The tech you’re attempting has been tried by others already on a few other forums with success. The yields are fairly good, but the result isn’t that clean, but it is smokeable and quite potent. Just don’t expect nice clean DMT crystals from that tech.
69ron said:
Yes, SWIM is seeing this is not a good route, SWIM already used half a gallon of acetone and says it is still dirty as shit. SWIM thinks it could easily take another half. SWIM ran out of acetone though, so decided to go ahead and freebase it and sit back and think of another angle. SWIM is thinking, though this works, SWIM would rather salt the DMT out of the acetone.
How high does the PH have to be for the DMT to move into Naptha, will 12 do it?
Would it also require alot of naptha wash?
SWIM is left with dry freebase-MHRB right now. It would be a very dirty acetone extract. Could SWIM add water to his shit, let the sodium disolve again, extract with naptha,
freeze and let crystals drop out of dirty naptha. Could this give a cleaner product? When the crystals form in dirty naptha, the crystals should be mostly pure shouldn't they? Maybe a little washing the crystals to get it a little cleaner? SWIM wants to avoid wating 3 days for it to salt out, SWIM wants to moove along and would rather freeze than salt if possible.
SWIM may have found something interesting though, when he freebased his stuff he left the powder damp with acetone since it has to all dry anyway. SWIM got a coffee cup 1/4 full of water, and added lots of sodium carbonate until powder rose out of the water, stired it and a little of 60% disolved instantly. SWIM poured this on the powder bark and mixed and pressed, just a dampish mix. It warmed the tray up and dried into a brick that had to be re-crushed. What was cool is it was completely dry within 1 hour.
SWIM dosen't have a lab, SWIM has to evaporate outside. SWIM tried an acetone extract with only a sixth of what he has, still waiting for it to dry because of water that got in. SWIM left his jar with freebase-MHRB + acetone outside all night, it also got water in it, but it turned the acetone green, should swim completely discard that mix?
"SWIM is left with dry freebase-MHRB right now. It would be a very dirty acetone extract. Could SWIM add water to his shit, let the sodium disolve again, extract with naptha,
freeze and let crystals drop out of dirty naptha. Could this give a cleaner product? When the crystals form in dirty naptha, the crystals should be mostly pure shouldn't they? Maybe a little washing the crystals to get it a little cleaner? SWIM wants to avoid wating 3 days for it to salt out, SWIM wants to moove along and would rather freeze than salt if possible."
SWIM had yet another thought, could SWIM do an acetone extract to get the dirty freebase, let it dry, then scrape it and disolve it in cool water, would the dmt drop to the bottom?
Filter the water and get the freebase? Or, What would it come out like if i did the dirty acetone extract, dry, disolve in naptha and freeze, would that give SWIM decent crystals?
SWIM would love for that to work, that would be an easy apraoch.
freeze and let crystals drop out of dirty naptha. Could this give a cleaner product? When the crystals form in dirty naptha, the crystals should be mostly pure shouldn't they? Maybe a little washing the crystals to get it a little cleaner? SWIM wants to avoid wating 3 days for it to salt out, SWIM wants to moove along and would rather freeze than salt if possible."
SWIM had yet another thought, could SWIM do an acetone extract to get the dirty freebase, let it dry, then scrape it and disolve it in cool water, would the dmt drop to the bottom?
Filter the water and get the freebase? Or, What would it come out like if i did the dirty acetone extract, dry, disolve in naptha and freeze, would that give SWIM decent crystals?
SWIM would love for that to work, that would be an easy apraoch.
I'd just do an A/B on your final product. You won't be dealing with very much liquid and the amount of naphtha needed will be minimal. Shouldn't take more than 30 minutes to get to the freeze preciptation phase.
It doesn't sound like that method is the way to very clean spice. Also defatting with acetone might not be the best way to go. Xylene or Toluene are much better defatting agents (cheaper and toluene is less smelly than xylene or acetone) and much less is needed.
Cheeto said:
It doesn't sound like that method is the way to very clean spice. Also defatting with acetone might not be the best way to go. Xylene or Toluene are much better defatting agents (cheaper and toluene is less smelly than xylene or acetone) and much less is needed.
SWIM wants to avoid using different chemicals, he hates hunting new sources of pure chems. Also not worried about getting perfect crystals, just good enough to get the job done. But also, if you freeze it in naptha, even dirty, would most of the oils and fats stay disolved leaving close to pure alkaloids, perhaps wash the crystals to get pure alkaloids?
69ron
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Keep in mind, that tech was not intended to produce a pure product. It was intended to produce a product that is concentrated enough to smoke, and that's it.
Freeze precipitating in naphtha or heptane is one of the best ways to clean up the extract from that tech. If mimosa was used as the starting material, a proper freeze precipitation step should yield fairly pure crystals even with your water contaminated stuff. Just make sure you only freeze precipitate the naphtha and not the water that will sink to the bottom.
Freeze precipitating in naphtha or heptane is one of the best ways to clean up the extract from that tech. If mimosa was used as the starting material, a proper freeze precipitation step should yield fairly pure crystals even with your water contaminated stuff. Just make sure you only freeze precipitate the naphtha and not the water that will sink to the bottom.