Astral Projecting Anyone?

[JohnIce2]

Just curious if anyone here has had a experience with this on or off drugs. I know to some Spice may qualify but I mean in the sense that your awareness is still their you are just out of body.
This has become a rather interesting topic to me recently as I have been researching it quite a bit.

So anyone out their have any experience(s) with this?

NOTE I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY GRAMMATICAL ERRORS. I SEEM TO BE PRETTY BAD ABOUT THIS LATELY.

 

[Plugturtle]

interesting topic indeed, i think astral projection is really just a form of dreaming and i think an "OBE" is either a dream of your spirit leaving your body ( if you were trying ) or its just a dream that doesnt include a body, ever have those dreams where youre just aware of whats happening, non-local or "3rd person" is what i used to call it but really its just an awareness of a dream scene.

but yeah its interesting because the main difference between waking and dreaming in 3rd person is the lack of a body, meaning in essence were already out of body but were aware of this body and can feel it, but its not us.

 

[Aum_Shanti]

From personal experience, I would definitely say that OBE (Astral Projection) and dreaming are two completely different things.
I also did some lucid dreaming for some time and it's IMHO something completely different.
Lucid dreaming is like being in VR, where your can make the world as you think it to be...
Basically imagination running wild.

In OBE/astral projection OTOH you are always in the "normal" world. Basically you are on the astral-plane, but as it is so close to the physical plane, you still see the physical, but you can also see the astral. That means you can see many additional thing you wouldn't see on the physical plane, which actually can be quite frightening when you see these things for the first time.
Also during astral projection you see your "life cord" connection to your body, and you can see your astral body: For me that had such a blue glow/hue.
Usually getting away too far from my body, or getting away too fast resulted in a quick rebound, like a rubber cord back into my body.
Getting out of the body was usually accompanied with a strong electric-type vibration in the whole body, 'til separation.

I stopped it after some time, as my experiences got crazier over time and I also started to get aware of astral beings, while in the body during the day...
That was just too much for me at that time.

Surely experiences are different, and I by no means say that this is, how it is.
I just explained it from my experienced POV. That's all I can do. I make no claim for being the ultimate truth.

 

[Christine Breese]

I too from personal experience know OBE to be much different than a lucid dream. Same as Aum_Shanti said, I see lucid dreaming as a virtual reality inside you where you can try out different scenarios and test your results before trying them out in the physical world, and also you will get information, teaching, and even guides will visit you in the dream world. Also you will get a chance to just play and try out different ego desires that you could never do in real life. For instance, if you always wished you could have been a brain surgeon, a rock star, a movie director, these are things you can do in the dream world and fulfill those desires. Your brain registers it as a real experience. Also, the dream world is safer, no real danger there.

However, OBE's are entirely a different realm. It's best if you aren't able to astral project until you have truly conquered your fears and aren't afraid of dark spirits and such and you know how to handle them and tell them to scram because you aren't afraid of them, or you will be in a load of trouble in the astral realms! So work on fears and how to deal with dark entities before you venture into the astral worlds. You do need real skill there for traversing these dimensions.

OBE's deal with different dimensions. The dream world is in your head, your own world. All the dream characters as actually parts of you. OBE, it's not that way. These are real entities and places in dimensions, physical and non physical, that you are dealing with, and the astral realms are HIGHLY populated with good, bad and everything in between.

When having an OBE, yes, it's like an electrical vibration first, and then you're out of your body. When there's a surprise in the astral worlds, yes, it's like slamming back into your body like you've been pulled by a stretched rubber band. You don't experience that with the dream world so much.

Yes, it can be very disconcerting once you astral project a lot, the physical world and the astral world are both things you can see, and it's not all pretty, although some is! It gets harder to tell what is physical input and what's not, but that skill comes with practice and time.

Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this conversation! I LOVE astral projection stuff! It's something different than just living as a regular human. You can see stuff others can't see, and know stuff that isn't in any books, and honestly, astral projection goes waaaaay beyond any medicine psychedelic journey I have ever had. This is the real reward for the medicine journeys and ceremonies.

 

[starway6]

Yes...Without drugs or with the use of a supliment called.. [galantamine]....plus choline..

One can use sleep parallisis as a bridge or door way into astral projection...

with astral projection or OBE your horizons are limit less!!

The experiance ..can be.. VERY rewarding...

 

[Aum_Shanti]

I completely ACK with what has been said.

OBE's deal with different dimensions. The dream world is in your head, your own world. All the dream characters as actually parts of you. OBE, it's not that way. These are real entities and places in dimensions, physical and non physical, that you are dealing with, and the astral realms are HIGHLY populated with good, bad and everything in between.

In my experience it was even so, that what you could see on the astral plane was very dependent on your own vibration/consciousness. E.g. with time I could see more and more things. And as has been said, there are many things there and it is IMHO only something for the braver ones. That's why I stopped back then. I was 16 when I did this...

And honestly back then I also feared going crazy. I said to myself: Can this really all be real or are you going completely crazy? Especially as it started, that I also got aware of these being while in the physical...

But many years later I found a book from Franz Hartmann, where he explains this plane, and I was really staggered that what he wrote was exactly what I experienced.

But really writing what the astral plane is like would need a lot of text.
BTW: As a sidenote: As to my experience, if you get attacked by some "darker" beings, which happened to me at certain times IMHO the best way to face them is to get up all your love/light and just love them and give them all your love. They are terribly afraid of that and will go away very quickly, and usually they won't come back.
The thing is that you can transform them with your love and they are very afraid of that.

Sounds crazy, doesn't it? Actually that was just the beginning...(e.g. have you ever seen the movie "the sixth sense"...)
Well maybe that was just my experiences...Never mind...

 

[Plugturtle]

is there no chance the subconscious can create another perceived dimension by simply creating the appearance of it and implanting the knowledge that its another dimension either because the person anticipated it or maybe just by chance?? ive had an obe like experience before, laid down got vibrations, fell asleep for like a second and then could see through a very faint circle of awareness, like looking through a keyhole and it was very dark and my room and building was as if it was built in the 1600s,then i woke up when i opened front door but i think it was just a dream induced by a conscious effort to dream up/enter a parallel dimension..

what is it that makes you think its another dimension besides the appearance of it?

intersting take here