Attn. If you're having a hard time breaking through read this.

[Global]

Sometimes when I come down from a really humbling journey I'll toke again. It never blasts me again because of the tolerance but it bathes me in it's colors and presence as I start reflecting.

When Ive come down and tried another toke Ive always just got the Joyous feeling but IME the colors are always fuzzy, like smeared together almost a water color effect.

The other day I had what was ramping up to be a super trip, when something threw me off, I opened my eyes and "lost" the vision so-to-speak. I was quite disappointed, and knew that smoking more DMT would not get me back to the same place, but I tried regardless. I too found myself just immersed in a collage of patterns, but I wasn't getting that narrative back. I was upset that I had messed it up for myself and welled up with a sort of serene sadness. The patterns (my environment) seemed to look on me with a sort of pity or sympathy or something and this big sob just sort of bubbled up out of me as they swelled in for a loving embrace. I decided to let another sob out and again received and influx of joy. Before long I couldn't tell if I was crying or laughing, and I didn't really care which.

At that point things had started to shift and there were these shiny golden coins raining down on me. I tilted my head back and saw the "bird" part of hyperspace (as if they make their home at the top of the "hyperspace castle". Despite not being able to re-achieve the same intensity or anything like that, it was still quite enjoyable. Sometimes indeed much less than that happens. On other occasions I've been blessed with quite the surprises of super-satisfactory experiences, and then the last time I did that, it actually amounted to the hands down creepiest DMT experience of my life, so it's really a mixed bag.

 

[devol]

I've been using the Atmos RAW. It's a pen style vape pen. It works AWESOME! Says it is for dry herbs but it works amazing for DMT

http://www.atmosrx.com/Atmos-Dry-Herb-Kits/View-all-products.html

 

[oldsoul]

Sometimes when I come down from a really humbling journey I'll toke again. It never blasts me again because of the tolerance but it bathes me in it's colors and presence as I start reflecting.

When Ive come down and tried another toke Ive always just got the Joyous feeling but IME the colors are always fuzzy, like smeared together almost a water color effect.

The other day I had what was ramping up to be a super trip, when something threw me off, I opened my eyes and "lost" the vision so-to-speak. I was quite disappointed, and knew that smoking more DMT would not get me back to the same place, but I tried regardless. I too found myself just immersed in a collage of patterns, but I wasn't getting that narrative back. I was upset that I had messed it up for myself and welled up with a sort of serene sadness. The patterns (my environment) seemed to look on me with a sort of pity or sympathy or something and this big sob just sort of bubbled up out of me as they swelled in for a loving embrace. I decided to let another sob out and again received and influx of joy. Before long I couldn't tell if I was crying or laughing, and I didn't really care which.

I can totally relate to this, a similar thing happened my last two trips. I am confused whether it wasn't enough spice, or in fact I "aborted" from the trips. Before these "aborts" was a super powerful breakthrough experience, with very meaningful entity contact. I almost feel like I aborted the last 2 times rather than have more intense experiences that would deeply challenge my world view.. even though another part of me seriously wanted to have those experiences again. Strange stuff.

And yea, crying/laughing is very common after my strong trips, it is in fact impossible to distinguish, I kind of refer to it just as "strong emotional release". It will go from unbounded joy simply for the fact of being alive, to the next second despair about all past traumas & hurts, then the next second laughing about it all. It's quite amazing actually, feels kinda like a strong purge of built up energies

I've been using the Atmos RAW. It's a pen style vape pen. It works AWESOME! Says it is for dry herbs but it works amazing for DMT

http://www.atmosrx.com/Atmos-Dry-Herb-Kits/View-all-products.html

Awesome!!! Do you just load the crystals in the chamber intended for cannabis concentrates, or are you mixing it with VG/PG like e-cigarette style? From what I remembered the atmos give you the option for both.

 

[What a substance]

I love your posts and your knowledge.

If I may ask...have you ever used /do you have an opinion on "the machine" or would you just class it along with meth type pipe?

Thanks

 

[ZenSpice]

"The Machine" is whatever you make it

 

[olympus mon]

I love your posts and your knowledge.

If I may ask...have you ever used /do you have an opinion on "the machine" or would you just class it along with meth type pipe?

Thanks

No the machine works quite well. I haven't made one before but seen them and would rate them high on the vaping tool list. However Ill always advise that enhanced leaf or a good sandwich is the fastest easiest and cheapest way to breakthrough.
However if your a hands on person that enjoys tinkering the machine is a lot of fun and makes a great DMT administering tool.
Happy voyages!

 

[DeDao]

I know this is an old post but I just read it all the way through and want to bump and thank you!

 

[Star Shine]

Thank you very much for this highly valuable contribution. I am grateful.

 

[Abmargol]

I have smoked spice i think from my oil rig and had an amazing blast off. is this bad? am I using too much heat by heating my nail?

 

[olympus mon]

I have smoked spice i think from my oil rig and had an amazing blast off. is this bad? am I using too much heat by heating my nail?

I would think and have wondered for year but I have talked to people that use oil rigs to vape their jim jam good with great results.
P.s. I found it cut in the first sentence you have amazing blast offs and the next want to know if your doing it wrong, Lol, Sorry laughing with you.

You could be, who knows how much your needing to blast off weight wise. If the hits are smooth and floral tasting, Id say your doin right Mate.

 

[aleph 1ne]

I have been using a Volcano Vaporizer with extreme success.. I got it off a friend who was leaving the country for extremely cheap, so I'm not worried about wasting an 800 dollar unit for this.. I paid 100 bux for it, so i'm stoked to use it exclusively for DMT.
- I do have a question though after reading this.. It involves the use of steel wool. (Scrubby) -
My concern is that these things often are made with aluminum. or partly aluminum. Why this is an issue to me is that inhaling aluminum oxides has been shown to cause Alzheimer's and other degenerative memory issues. Not healthy stuff to be putting in to your lungs!! - Not sure If this has ever been brought up, or if I am incorrect in my info, but I thought I'd throw it out there, as I see a LOT of people using such techniques, and have heard this before/ been warned... Any Thoughts?

 

[Land0n0]

what is your preference on "the Machine"

 

[waxdabber]

I have smoked spice i think from my oil rig and had an amazing blast off. is this bad? am I using too much heat by heating my nail?

I am planning on doing this on my next blast. I have a 6 inch mini tube with a ti nail, should I just heat it up as if I were taking a dab of bho and dump it on while its red hot? Or do you let it cool down a bit. Another thing I thought about, would it help at all to mix your dmt into some wax to help with the application?

 

[macaco2000]

Guy's i've been doing lots of research on DMT. Have my own GVG, Milligram scale, Torch lighter...
First off i would like to expose that i rarely post on forums, but rather read and aquire all the info i can.

I've been having difficulties breaking through. i've read all the how to GVG and others.

I need more of a detailed breakdown description. my first GVG use was .025mg, i'm sure i over heated the substance and only keep'd vapors in for 5 sec as taste was pretty strong
Than learned to be more carefully with the heat. i've tried multiple times after and so i cleaned the GVG and removed some screens from 11 to 7. i bough some higher mesh screens compared to that of the GVG default screens.

What i have achieved, body numbness, auditory buzz, retro visual with eyes closed. not quite the breakthrough I've been searching.
Also notice a kind of tolerance and feel as if the first toke is really what it counts and rest not as efficient.

Recently done 0.045mg and didn't get far. but same effect as 0.025mg. I've been keeping the torch flame 1-3cm from the ceramic filter keeping it slightly red but not as much as I've done before when i burn it 'cooked it'

I've not pre melted as i don't think that would have a big effect. should i apply more heat?
Inhale faster stronger. since I've over heated a couple times I've been very careful as it vaporizes at 100F and as soon i start to taste i know that that there's too much heat.

Wish there was a vid or friends to enlighten me on the master technique. i've seen one of the vids but not too clear.
The only thing i can think of is that my current $20 torch only stays lit if I'm inhaling? is that normal. got a $40+ cohiba in the mail but haven't had a chance to try. need some 4X+ refined butane

Please share in more of a technical detail your most effective and efficient inhaling technique.
Time in seconds, Color of filter, Time of heat, Inhalation, Tokes, Position and so forth.
Perhaps i should try new cohiba torch light it up heat it up not too aggressively and do a big inhale?
Don't wanna waste all my spice

 

[3rdI]

Swop your screens for a copper ribbon disc or ceramic sponge. All your other questions are answered in the GVG thread.

 

[tgun]

Thanks for your informative post. Someone here had recomended the same as you to just load a 100mg and it wouldnt be wasted (maybe you but it was before this posts date) I found this to be true for myself and I had my first "real" DmT experience this way. read breaktrhough. I had 2 hits left in a 100mg bowl for after I blasted off the first time and they certainly werent wasted on a 100mg hit so to speak. I really recomend your procedure. I used ashes on a small bubbler as the bedding.

 

[Squirrel]

you are an awesome person!! Thanks for posting this. I really helped me out with what technique I should use and I am very interested in Changa now!

 

[Volrux]

What also really helps is a good meditation session before you smoke

 

[Du57mi73]

I would like to note something that very little people actually mention is the length of time you hold in a hit. Numerous times I have given people bowls/sliders packed with 150mg infused into greenery. They would cash it out, hold it in for a few seconds then let it out, then tell me it wasn't any good and barely felt it.

I had someone bragging one time cuz he took 7 hits in a row. I had a slider with .5g infused into some greenery. I took the first hit, and while I was down for the count he was supposed to blast off. He took it upon himself to inhale and immediately exhale the whole half gram. I certainly lectured him when I came back to.

But my point is that when you inhale your spice you need to hold it in as long as you possibly can, and then some.

 

[Gianluca]

Olympus, for your GVG, have you ever tried putting the DMT on the filter itself? Get it to melt in there, and then 3 hits should get you blasted off easily.