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Aya Recipe? Like the shamanic way.

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Dovy91

Dovy91

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SWIM wanted to know:

If one has Banisteriopsis caapi powdered vine Cielo strain 100 grams, and 2 ounces of (charcuna) psychotria viridis, would it be possible to make from 50 grams caapi, and one ounce charcuna a deacent dose?

What would be the way to use those measurements (or if u think I should adjust the weight for a good dose for one), and those materials with a single stainless steal pot or a slow cooker with a higher heat setting to cook for 10 to 12 hours to make black Aya, the way the shamans do it.

The original shaman way is very appealing, but if powdered and not whole vine is available, how may one achieve the same results. (note the ultimate goal is to make black Aya)

[I also apologize, I am at the moment unable to post on the Ayahuasca part of the forum, due to being new, if someone is able please redirect this thread to there, thank you]
 
The only "black Aya" I'm aware of is a designation of vine, in which case no amount of cooking will turn Cielo into it. You don't want to go higher in heat with Aya, or you will caramelize sugars making it much more difficult to get down.

Like E-Z said, first go through the All About Aya thread.
 
ragabr said:
The only "black Aya" I'm aware of is a designation of vine, in which case no amount of cooking will turn Cielo into it. You don't want to go higher in heat with Aya, or you will caramelize sugars making it much more difficult to get down.

Like E-Z said, first go through the All About Aya thread.
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Oh that was a grate thread, and thank you for telling me about black aya, I am concerned about the messurments cappi:viridis 2:1 is that a good ratio? Or should I do just like it was recommended 1:1
 
Let me quote what I said elsewhere, its relevant to your question:

I suggest first find the potency of your caapi, drink it by itself, around 40g.. If you can feel something, light headedness, maybe some tracers, sensitivity to light etc, its cool, next time add the dmt admixture.. If you dont feel anything, raise next time till you find that dosage. If its too much (very dizzy, etc), lower the caapi dosage.

Otherwise if your aya brew doesnt work well you wont know whether its dmt or caapi that is too much/too little.

Also chacruna depends which. Some are quite potent, at like 20g is plenty, but more commonly you might need 2 or 3 times that much.

So once you find your caapi dosage you can start adding maybe 20g chacruna and seeing how it goes.
 
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