Ayahuasca before sleep for vivid dreams?

[jivangilad]

I think of taking ayahuasca and then immediately go to sleep.
I am not sure if full dose or half a dose.
What will happen?
Does it cause lucid dreams?
Can it heal in dreams?
Does this make sense?
Maybe also I should take 2 hours before waking up, when you have more dreams.

 

[starway6]

Take leagle natural galantamine 4 to 8mgs after you have slept for atleast 4 or 5 hours..
You should have the most vivid dreams of your life as long as you dont get insomnia from the galantamine...
Usualy 4mgs wont cause insomnia good start dose...
Take it with choline ...Dreamamins .com

 

[1ce]

Take leagle natural galantamine 4 to 8mgs after you have slept for atleast 4 or 5 hours..
You should have the most vivid dreams of your life as long as you dont get insomnia from the galantamine...
Usualy 4mgs wont cause insomnia good start dose...
Take it with choline ...Dreamamins .com

This is interesting to me.

 

[jivangilad]

Thanks a lot.
I will probably will take this galantamine sometime, and I have also ordered silene capensis.
It is just I wonder that since Ayahausca is healing and has its special spirit, how will it be in dreams.
I am just a bit afraid, since in dreams you don't have control and who knows where it takes you.

 

[1ce]

Thanks a lot.
I will probably will take this galantamine sometime, and I have also ordered silene capensis.
It is just I wonder that since Ayahausca is healing and has its special spirit, how will it be in dreams.
I am just a bit afraid, since in dreams you don't have control and who knows where it takes you.

I thought much of ayahuasca's healing properties came by its purge. I've never done it (although I'd like to) so I could be nieve here. And isn't the same true for DMT hyperspace? You have control up until it's in your lungs, past that you just have to ride it out. There's no 'go back' button.

How soon prior to sleeping should one take gala,antine?

 

[Icon]

IMO the purge isn't necessary. I've had a few phenomenal pharma sessions where a lot of healing and learning was achieved without any nausea. My first time, I just laid in bed and drifted in and out of 30 minute dream sessions. So I'd say you can definitely take this before going to sleep, but I wouldn't sleep on it. For me, the Aya allowed some awareness when falling into the dreamstates, like WILD's (wake induced lucid dreams), where I wasn't sure whether I was asleep and dreaming or still awake and just envisioning. In that state, the lines kind of blur.

But in retrospect, taking it alone in bed was probably my least meaningful experience. My preferred way is in a small group of trusted friends. My last pharma was on valentine's last year, with 6 of us taking it in a studio together. When you have multiple people in that mindstate at the same time in the same place, some incredible things begin happening. Everyone was hyper aware of each other, communication, and the compassion we're able to receive and reflect. We felt like one organism; in fact, we all dog-piled on a couch for 30 minutes just to become one. Was pretty cool feeling a giggle ripple through 6 bodies and them all respond, like one crystalline structure. I got a lot of metaphors of connection and cooperation that night. Made me realize the ayahuasca state is one of compassion and we have the power and responsibility to summon it in every interaction.

Take it any way you want, but someday, definitely try a group retreat or prepare enough for a group experience :thumb_up:

 

[starway6]

Thanks a lot.
I will probably will take this galantamine sometime, and I have also ordered silene capensis.
It is just I wonder that since Ayahausca is healing and has its special spirit, how will it be in dreams.
I am just a bit afraid, since in dreams you don't have control and who knows where it takes you.

I thought much of ayahuasca's healing properties came by its purge. I've never done it (although I'd like to) so I could be nieve here. And isn't the same true for DMT hyperspace? You have control up until it's in your lungs, past that you just have to ride it out. There's no 'go back' button.

How soon prior to sleeping should one take gala,antine?

Generaly its best to take galantamine after you have gotten atleast 4 or 5 hours of deep sleep.

then take galantamine and choline stack at [WBTB] wake back to bed..it also good to repeate your intent before returning to sleep..as this increases you chance of becomming lucidly aware in your comming dream..
When lucid in a dream..there is nothing that cant be acheaved...nothing!
Any experiance you desire.. is at your total control as long as you remain in dream without waking...
leagle galantamine...dreamamins.com...brialiant dreams...


[depending on dosage]..Taking galantamine at bed... time may keep you tossing and turning al night long waking from dream after dream!
Many can sleep through 4mgs of [G] [taken at bed time]..only to dream in last half of sleep cycle..
It just depends on your sensitivity body weight ect..
4mgs of galantamine at bedtime ..for me can cause fitfull sleep all night.. waking from dream after dream!...and this can make you feel unrested in morning...
We all need deep sleep..and REM sleep...REM sleep is when we dream the most in last half of sleep cycle..

DMT to me ..is like dreaming totaly awake..but still the dmt experiance and the dream experiance is similar but diferent...
Galantamine boosts chemicle comunication within the brain and is used in elderly people with memory decline..
I still want to try some galantamine an hour before doing dmt to see if it will alow me to remember more of my experiance...

 

[jivangilad]

Thanks Icon.
So this means I can take Ayahuasca before sleep.
I will play with it.
I have taken with people and without and it was always meaningfull. Just different.
I have also tried with different dosages.
starway6, thanks so much for the explanation.
I wonder how galantamine will be different then silene capenses and calea zacaetchichi.
By the way, I have tried once calea and I have had endless dreams all night. It was very annoying and restless. I will definitely use calea again, but I will have to play with it.

 

[Synkromystic]

On a couple separate occasions I have done high doses of pharmauasca multiple times in one night and with smoked changa...and then done it again the next night....For the following week my dreams are so unbelievably wild/intense and geometric oriented. The dreams were almost as strong as the pharma experiences which were beyond words. FYI, i almost always have boring, uneventful dreams.

 

[starway6]

Dreaming is funny...you can even wake at 3am eat some chocolate or a bananna return to sleep and also boost your dream vividness that way .. but not as effecticly as galantamine...

 

[jivangilad]

I at 2:30 am I woke up.
I have taken small dosage of ayahuaska, about half of full ayahuaska dosage.
The thing was that I was so worried of not controlling my dreams, that I couldn't sleep.
So I have had a weak experience with some element of of sleepy dreamy consciousness.
I think I will try it again, and maybe I will manage to be more relaxed.

 

[Icon]

I at 2:30 am I woke up.
I have taken small dosage of ayahuaska, about half of full ayahuaska dosage.
The thing was that I was so worried of not controlling my dreams, that I couldn't sleep.
So I have had a weak experience with some element of of sleepy dreamy consciousness.
I think I will try it again, and maybe I will manage to be more relaxed.

Are we ever in control of our dreams? I think that's the point to dreaming is to release control! There's truly nothing to fear but fear itself.

 

[jivangilad]

This morning the children woke me up at 5:15.
At 7:30 my wife said that I can go to sleep. I wasn't too tired but I took the chance.
So I again I took about half dosage Ayahusca.
In bed I listened to one song. I didn't expect anything but after a few minutes I realized my body
Is asleep and I am in full consciousness. This state lasted for about 1.5 to 2 hours. I didn't want to wake up, but my wife woke my up, because we had to go.
It was a very healing experience. There was no plot or story in the dream. So one thing was that I wasn't sure what I was supposed to do in this state.
The dosage was low, And I don't know I I would take more the that for a dream.
I assume the strength of experience was less then full, although it is hard to compare to wake up state.
What I can say that the day after I felt like after a full Ayahuasca experience of healing.