brain tumor

[dumbstruck]

Whew. I just sent you a 1400+ word PM Virola. I apologize in advance! I suppose I'm a bit heavy handed when it comes to text. I don't have much to say I didn't in the PM. Much love and my best well wishes!

 

[Phantastica]

chemotherapy does not work it may prolong your life but it will not heal you.

completely agreed.

 

[jamie]

Let's be a bit more careful with medical advice here.
If chemo doesn't work, Virola can still drink juice and meditate, no?

I said I personally would not get chemo. I never said anyone should do anything. I never gave medical advice. I am not a doctor. I would not get chemo though if I had cancer. I have witnessed more than 1 person go through chemo before, none of them seemed any better off..quite the contrary actaully and all of them are dead. My sisters best friend when she was 12 years old also had cancer and wasted away in some ward with repeated chemo treatments and she died as well. I believe there are other options out there, but I also believe that I would be hard pressed to find a traditional doctor out there who would support these methods because there is not alot of money to be made by the pharma industry.

 

[obliguhl]

you say be careful about med advice yet you are giving one.

Yes, because chemo gives him a chance to survive for a couple more years and this is backed up by science. Is there conclusive evidence, that drinking juice heals cancer? I'm talking about at least a couple peer reviewed, placebo controlled studies here.

It might well work and i'd like to believe in it. But we're talking about life and death here, not some fancy diet to make you healthier.

Then, I was mostly refering to Phantastica:

I would deeply urge you to follow this path Virola, and take heed to jamie's words.

I can surely understand people refusing chemo, trying to heal the natural way if you like.
It might be a good alternative, it spares you a lot of trouble and might even help you. But i'd like to see that backed up by science, before i can accept people urging the deadly sick to throw away school medicine in favor or some alternative plant healing (again, not that there is something wrong with it per se, but let's look at what is at stake here. Not much room to gamble imho).

 

[teotenakeltje]

I've witnessed a friend undergo chemo lately and it messed him up, but realy bad.

I think chemo is just not the right treatment in every cancer case.
Say you have about 3 months to live and the chemo can make you live double as long. But immediatly after the traitment you feel sick, and this till you die? What's the use? I would prefer to live 3 months less, and enjoy my last days as good as possible.
I think Western society tries to hold on to life in a sick way. I'm all for extending someones life, but not at all costs.
I think people can share there opinion here, nobody is claiming to be a doctor, and viewers should take every comment with a healthy amount of criticism.

 

[Virola78]

Well, if i take the medicine against vomiting (granisetronhydrochloride) than i dont suffer any side effects from the chemo (temodal.)
We will have to see if the chemo+radio therapy has any good effects. So far its the best i got i think. Not saying juice cant be an (the) answer
I might try it later on in the proces.

I will be strong if it gets any worse, im no pussycat 8) We will see what happens when the side effects of radition start to kick in, within now and a few days i expect, if at all.
So far not good, still recovering from all the surgery that is, but my situation could be a lot worse (infections, influenza, depression etc.)

Thanks again for all the warm support. It really does make a difference.
I will be with some friends for the weekend. For now wish you all a very nice christmass.
Have fun all you lovely folk, i know i will :d

 

[DoctorMantus]

Thank you virola you have yourself a great Christmas too. We are all still here and will be once you get past all this.

 

[easyrider]

I'd just like to commend you for this head-strong attitude you're exhibiting, Virola78. I can't imagine what stream of thought your mind has undergone due to this disease. The will is a very powerful faculty, and can aid an individual through any hardship. I hope your iron will will endure through all this, and no matter what happens, know that you're a true warrior.

 

[joedirt]

you say be careful about med advice yet you are giving one.

Yes, because chemo gives him a chance to survive for a couple more years and this is backed up by science. Is there conclusive evidence, that drinking juice heals cancer? I'm talking about at least a couple peer reviewed, placebo controlled studies here.

It might well work and i'd like to believe in it. But we're talking about life and death here, not some fancy diet to make you healthier.

Then, I was mostly refering to Phantastica:

I would deeply urge you to follow this path Virola, and take heed to jamie's words.

I can surely understand people refusing chemo, trying to heal the natural way if you like.
It might be a good alternative, it spares you a lot of trouble and might even help you. But i'd like to see that backed up by science, before i can accept people urging the deadly sick to throw away school medicine in favor or some alternative plant healing (again, not that there is something wrong with it per se, but let's look at what is at stake here. Not much room to gamble imho).

Seriously? Perhaps I'm being presumptuous here, but it seems as though you haven't researched many of the holistic methods out there.

For what its worth. As a medical scientist. I completely and 100% agree with Fractal.
Change your diet, change your life.

<rant>
There are countless upon countless things in this world that are both true and real that have not yet been investigated by science.
Just because there is no scientific study published does not mean it's not good advice.

I don't understand when people act as though only currently accepted science is true.
The whole point of science is to push the envelope. Find something knew that seems to work and then investigate it.
UNFORTUNATELY scientists can't just go willy nilly investigating what they want to.
Getting grant funding requires that you investigate an area that is sanctioned by your funders. Get it?

Some things are essentially outside of current science simply because society say's so.
</rant>

A scientific proof is great!
But something that works is better.

 

[moyshekapoyre]

Kambo is known to cure cancer (as well as almost everything else). Iboga floods are also a good idea. And of course the usual advice re: diet, exercise, meditation, etc.

Also there's a guy here on the nexus who works in an alternative cancer treatment center in E. Europe. He says the herbs they use are extremely effective in curing cancer, and he has data to back it up. I can PM you his username if you like.

 

[moyshekapoyre]

Btw regarding chemo, I just witnessed a friend die of breast cancer while on chemo. Her brain was so foggy from the chemo that she could barely think. Even if she had known about alternative treatments, I doubt she would have remembered them after that brain fog of chemo set in. No chemo for me, ever.

 

[obliguhl]

Just because there is no scientific study published does not mean it's not good advice.

But how do you know which healing method really works? Millions of people swear by homeopathic, but that doesn't mean that it's a good healing system. I surely have tried tons of different stuff to heal several diseases without any luck at all. And every one of them was praised as the next big thing.

 

[SpartanII]

Just because there is no scientific study published does not mean it's not good advice.

But how do you know which healing method really works? Millions of people swear by homeopathic, but that doesn't mean that it's a good healing system. I surely have tried tons of different stuff to heal several diseases without any luck at all. And every one of them was praised as the next big thing.

I see what you are saying, but science has a lot of catching up to do, mainly because of the scientific dogma preventing holistic healing systems from getting the much needed research they deserve.

The dominant strategy of western medicine attacking the symptoms without considering the multi-dimensional aspects of healing need to be reconsidered. It makes more sense to look at the big picture and give the body what it needs to fight disease and stay healthy.

Hopefully this discussion won't degrade into a debate, as it's not about our egos, it's about Virola getting the support and encouragement he/she deserves and needs, as part of the healing process.

Virola, I commend you on your positive attitude throughout this ordeal. Looks like you have half the battle already won. Keep up the good spirits, take into account the great advice that has been given here, and save your emotional energy so it can fight the good fight.

Please keep us updated. We are all here for you.

Peace and blessings.

 

[obliguhl]

Hopefully this discussion won't degrade into a debate, as it's not about our egos, it's about Virola getting the support and encouragement he/she deserves and needs, as part of the healing process.

Agreed!
I still really hope it works out well for you virola, whatever the end result may be.
I do not really know you, but i like you from what i've gathered. It is sad, that it can hit anyone at every moment.

Hope to hear from you again, and still best wishes

 

[polytrip]

I'd just like to commend you for this head-strong attitude you're exhibiting, Virola78. I can't imagine what stream of thought your mind has undergone due to this disease. The will is a very powerful faculty, and can aid an individual through any hardship. I hope your iron will will endure through all this, and no matter what happens, know that you're a true warrior.

Yes, i admire your strength as well.

 

[aliendreamtime]

Is it possible to try both? Why couldnt you use a hollistic treatment with the chemo? Whatever you choose, I hope for the best for you.

 

[SpartanII]

Is it possible to try both? Why couldnt you use a hollistic treatment with the chemo? Whatever you choose, I hope for the best for you.

I'm not a doctor, but I assume it's kinda like eating junk food and healthy fresh food at the same time. Two opposing forces. How can the body heal while it's being poisoned with chemo and radiation?

 

[polytrip]

Is it possible to try both? Why couldnt you use a hollistic treatment with the chemo? Whatever you choose, I hope for the best for you.

I'm not a doctor, but I assume it's kinda like eating junk food and healthy fresh food at the same time. Two opposing forces. How can the body heal while it's being poisoned with chemo and radiation?

The poison may be needed to kill the cancer and the healthy food may be helpfull for the body to recover from the poison.

 

[tadgh78]

This news must be a terrible blow. I have no idea how I would handle something like that. I wish you all strength and courage as you face into your ordeal. I don't know if it is any consolation but many many people have faced the same ordeal and absolutely everybody who has lived great or obscure has died one way or another.

Anyway as regards advice, have you considered altering your diet?

The Paleolithic diet is supposed to be about the healthiest diet around. It was the diet human ate for 2 million years until the development of agriculture just 5000 years ago, so it is the diet we as humans are evolved to eat.

It's quite palatable, it's only real drawback seems to be that it is a bit more expensive than the average diet.

It won't necessarily cure your cancer, but it might make you feel more healthy, it certainly has for me. I used to have a constant wheeze until I stopped drinking milk (I still eat some natural yogurt).

Anyway's here's a youtubr link for description of the paleolithic diet; It's a TED talk by a doctor who claims to have cured her MS by adopting a Paleo diet.

 

[Enoon]

Dear Virola,

needless to say I wish you the utmost support and love to overcome this disease (physically, mentally, spiritually). Personally after the due research and depending on what kind of cancer I had I would undergo chemo at least once to see if it helps. I have heard doctors admit that for some kinds it doesn't really do anything, but I know from people I know that have survived cancer with chemo that it can help for some. But I would definitely also look into alternatives.

I once read a very good book called "grace and grit" that is about a woman and her battle against cancer, her and her husbands reflections about the general reactions of people around them when it comes to cancer, and how despite the disease she grows tremendously in face of this hardship. I recomend the book to you.

What would I do before I died? Travel! As much as possible. Thailand, Peru, Galapagos, India, etc. Visit my family in the many corners of the world where they are situated, love love love, learn to play the guitar a bit better, taste the authentic foods of the different countries, relax... definitely not work if possible, volunteer for eco-projects in return for lodging and food, write long long letters to people I've cared about in my life, take lots of pictures, and love some more.

all the best to you!