Butane Tek?

[Binary Drool]

So I was thinking about trying this, or rather creating a new tek. I will take photos and post when I attempt this but I'd like to get some input first.

I've made hash oil before using this tek. Pretty simple. Put the herb/cuttings etc in a PVC pipe. I wouldn't use any pvc thicker than 2", if you're looking for more room in the tube add length. One side has a coffee filter held on by rubber band, the other has a screw on PVC fitting with drilled hole so you can engage the butane can tip. Simply hold the coffee filter side down and spray entire can through, dripping butane into a catch dish. Butane evaporates very quickly. And you're left with nice gold honey hash oil.

For use with MHRB and extracting DMT this would be an expansion on q21q21's tek.

X=X
1. Powderdize Xg MHRB
2. Add hot Vinegar until you have a sludge consistancey
3. Mix in Xg Lime
4. Let the mix sit until it drys out leaving you with a dry basifyed MHRB/Lime powder mix
5. Attach filter to your PVC tube, add the powder mix and screw on the top
6. Empty buntane can through PVC collecting drippings in catch dish

Step 6 would be a pull, so repeate until you're not pulling anything, which should be easy to tell because Butane's evaporation rate is extremly fast.

Here is a link to 12 cans of Butane for 11$. That's roughly 92¢ per canister. Each contains 8oz of fluid. 8oz is roughly 236ml. My current Naphtha/Xylene pulls are 100ml. So I get 10 pulls out of a Liter which costs a little over 10$. 1 canister of Butane is essentially 2+ pulls so you are cutting your cost of solvent in half. Not to mention time, with in minutes your solvent is gone and you have smokeable freebase DMT(in theory).

Question.
Can the acidifaction step be skipped, leaving you a liquidless extraction of just bark powder and Lime? or, is the Vinegar/water nessesary for the reaction to take place?

This is an A/B extraction, but this would obviously turn it into a STB. But is liquid nessesary for a STB?

 

[nen888]

..while i have no experience or technical information on it, i have been told by experienced sources that
butane works..you need i would say to refine the butane stage of your tek, i.e how to utilise it best..i don't think whether it's A/B, STB etc is important for what you're hypothesising/asking..
please just remember the OH and S measures for flammable gas!

 

[Binary Drool]

I intend to create a step by step guide for this tek with pictures. And if it works.. Well then it's just some more knowledge to add to the Nexus.

 

[El Mescalero]

Question.
Can the acidifaction step be skipped, leaving you a liquidless extraction of just bark powder and Lime? or, is the Vinegar/water nessesary for the reaction to take place?

This is an A/B extraction, but this would obviously turn it into a STB. But is liquid nessesary for a STB?

It is unlikely to work by just combining the two powders. The lime powder works to create the free base while in aqueous solution, since no reaction can take place between the powders. Most of the the dryteks don't start out dry. Perhaps if you mixed the two with a minimal amount of water and then let dry to a powder?

As an aside, I know that using butane on plain powder leaves no residue in the butane evaporate. Once the freebase is created, this may be a viable extraction method


Let us know what happens.

 

[Binary Drool]

I did one extraction today and got nothing. I let the mhrb sit for an hour in vinegar, it was wet, but not soaked. Then mixed in lime until it was like potting soil and put one can of butane through. Nothing. I think the mhrb/lime mix needs to sit together wet for a little longer. I'm going to try again tomorrow. Tonight I will add water to the mhrb/lime mix and let it sit over night.

 

[El Mescalero]

Seems to me that you would have to let the mixture dry and then powder it for the butane to be able to mingle with the mixture and dissolve any of the DMT.

 

[Binary Drool]

Also, the butane is only in contact with the powder for a short time. My normal Nap/Xye pulls are around 5 minutes so that could also be an issue. I've got it soaked in water like thick soup. When it's dry I'll try again.

 

[kervork]

I wonder if perhaps butane might be helpful for washing the crystals if not extracting.

 

[The Traveler]

I think that you are missing one important element here:

The DMT is inside the cells of the bark. The hot vinegar will not extract much if you just pour it over the MHRB and the butane will only crack very few of the cells by instant freeze so most of the DMT (still in a salt form and not in a freebase form) will stay nice and cosy inside their protective cells.

You might have more success if you cook the MHRB in a vinegar solution first, then reduce, then add the lime and then let it dry out completely. After it is completely dry you will have to make sure it is powder again so all 'clay' parts should be broken up into powder.

After that you might be able to butane the DMT freebase out of the powder through the PVC pipe.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

imo just get some oil/limo.

 

[The Traveler]

imo just get some oil/limo.

Butane is a easy since it will evap quickly and it will probably leave very little to no trace in the crystals.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[Observant]

after all ...the flowing butane will have a hard time penetrating the mhrb mix in a tube , you would have to submerge it in Butane .
The evaporation product would also not crystallize properly at that evaporation rate.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

You would also need to vacume purge your butane extract. You have to do the same for hash oil as well, because any traces of the butane left in the material can cause crystalization of your lungs. At least this is what I am told by professional oil makers.

Plus, a PVC pipe would not be the best to use. You may end up having plastic dissolved in your end product after a few uses. A large glass oil extractor would probably be best.